how to heal

[SCandChives]

Lets begin the bandaging speculation...

Bandages would be applied to the limbs, as body shots would incapacitate the soldier.

So there would be at least 4 different animations, one for every limb.

Since I don't know much about bandaging, I don't know if an injure at a different height would requite a bandage at a different height too.

For example, if you get shot in the hand, do you have to cut all the blood stream of the whole arm by applying the bandage between the elbow and the shoulder? Or can you apply it directly to the hand?

An easy way to solve that problem woulb be to not see your body while bandaging, so it doesn't make a differenc where you get shot (animation wise of course). The problem there is it's a bit wierd to put a bandage on without even looking at the wound.

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[Taisenki]

As long as theres an animation for bandaging different areas of your body. And the bandages are visible to other players. I will be very satisfied

 

[Fedorov]

If you get shot in a limb that is already bandaged... would you bleed out from that second injury? It wouldn't make much sense since, the blood flow to that limb is already interrupted.

 

[Dr.Phibes]

Russians and Germans healing in WW2? Do we get a waterpark too?

 

[RedGuardist]

If you get shot in a limb that is already bandaged... would you bleed out from that second injury? It wouldn't make much sense since, the blood flow to that limb is already interrupted.

Not really as I hope that the bandaging in game does not model using tourniquets. If one is hit in a large blood vessel or suffers some other heavy trauma - heavy enough to need a torniquet ==> one is incapacitated ==> dead in game.

IRL it would be pretty much impossible to continue fighting after suffering a trauma that needed a tourniquet and hopefully it

 

[echutter]

If you get shot in a limb that is already bandaged... would you bleed out from that second injury? It wouldn't make much sense since, the blood flow to that limb is already interrupted.

If you get shot a second time in the arm, well I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to use it. But for games sake it will most likely just be a second bandage applied most likely with the same animation. Although getting shot is a pretty big thing in this game.. so maybe there will be more animations?

And if you get shot a third or fourth time in the same limb, well I'm pretty sure you are not battle able, so type in 'suicide' in the console.

 

[Fedorov]

If you get shot a second time in the arm, well I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to use it. But for games sake it will most likely just be a second bandage applied most likely with the same animation. Although getting shot is a pretty big thing in this game.. so maybe there will be more animations?

And if you get shot a third or fourth time in the same limb, well I'm pretty sure you are not battle able, so type in 'suicide' in the console.

Well, realistically, I don't think I'd be able to use the arm, even with only one shot.

Hell, I wouldn't even be able to type "suicide" in the console =3

 

[Grobut]

Not really as I hope that the bandaging in game does not model using tourniquets. If one is hit in a large blood vessel or suffers some other heavy trauma - heavy enough to need a torniquet ==> one is incapacitated ==> dead in game.

This^

If you need to cut off the blood flow to a limb, then that limb becomes useless, muscles don't work without blood (and a soldier won't be much use to anyone if he's lost the use of an entire limb, not to mention the fact that he'd probably be powerless to do anything other than writhing in pain on the ground at that point anyway).

And as we all know, in RO, beeing rendered useless on the battlefield is treated the same as beeing killed, so you will just fall down and go to the respawn que at that point.

 

[WiFiDi]

if you did most of that stuff you would die from bleeding out not long after. in fact most of that stuff be better to leave in you.

 

[captain max707]

If you get shot in a limb that is already bandaged... would you bleed out from that second injury? It wouldn't make much sense since, the blood flow to that limb is already interrupted.

Are you thinking of tourniquets or bandages?

 

[Fedorov]

Are you thinking of tourniquets or bandages?

I've never needed a bandage. So, as I said, I have very little clue about bandaging or tourniquets.

Anyway, I'm thinking, tourniquets, stop the blood flow to the limb, and bandages just block the injure, am I right?

I just imagine that all bullet holes require tourniquets because I just don't picture a bandage fixing that mess, I could be wrong, of course. I suppose it could depends on the bullet/weapon type.

The thing is, with tourniquets, they can just do 4 different animations, but bandages... there are a LOT of places that can be hit and individually bandaged, and that would take a lot more animations.

They said that the limb without blood flow is useless, and I agree, but... wouldn't that be also true with any other kind of bullet hole?, I mean, you have a hole in it, even if its not severe, and doesn't need a tourniquet, could you use the arm at all like that? I do not think so.

In Operation Flashpoint, you had to bandage your limbs, and then you were not 100% efficient, you had to crawl all the time, and had very difficult aim. (System that I absolutely HATED, I still prefer Ostfront system even if its not realistic)

 

[WiFiDi]

i think everyone here is just speculating i think i will just go ask someone that knows what there talking about and come back with an actuall answer.

also a tonoquet to my knowledge doesn't cut off all bloodflow just some it mostly applys pressure (if you stopped bloodflow your arm would die pretty quick.)

 

[Grobut]

I've never needed a bandage. So, as I said, I have very little clue about bandaging or tourniquets.

Anyway, I'm thinking, tourniquets, stop the blood flow to the limb, and bandages just block the injure, am I right?

A tourniquet is usually made of surgical tubing, basically a big rubber band (though you could improvise one with other materials, a rope could be used, a shoelace, whatever you might have handy), and is wrapped tightly around the limb to constrict blood flow (though as WiFiDi points out, it wont stop blood flow 100%, nor should it).
It is used to stop a patient from bleeding out if they have a wound that's loosing blood rapidly, but as a downside, the patient will loose use of that limb whilst the tourniquet is there, because there won't be enough blood flow to opperate the muscles normally (but there probably woulden't be anyway, if the wound is just leaking the stuff).
Unfortunately though, if the wound is on the torso, it will be quite impossible to use a tourniquet, it only really works if you have a severed major arterie in the arms or legs.

A bandage is usually made of gaze (or could be improvised with any clean cloth you might have handy), and can stop bleeding from something like a flesh wound, and more importantly, prevent further contamination of the wound by covering it up.
It would not be sufficient to stop someone from bleeding out if they have a severed major arterie (though it could buy them some more time if wrapped tightly), but for a torso wound you would have to try anyway, but the patient would be living on borrowed time, and has to get to a surgeon to have a chance.

Bandages are also applied to sprained or broken limbs, having them wrapped will slow down swelling, and more importantly, provide some support and keep the limb in the right place/position, which really helps the pain.
For a broken limb though, you'd have to get a cast on there (made of a solid material, gipsen is the traditional material used, but in recent times, plastic is starting to become very popular), just so you can hold the bone in the right position, so it will grow back togeather correctly.

 

[Fedorov]

But the point is, how useful is a limb with a bullet hole?

 

[Devil_Inside]

But the point is, how useful is a limb with a bullet hole?

It depends where the hole is exactly and what muscles were affected by the bullet.

With a damaged biceps, for example, it would be a problem to carry or shoot a heavy weapon, climb over obstacles or throw nades as it will probably be extremely painful, but it should be ok the shoot your weapon while prone or supported.

 

[Nylle]

Just remember boys, it got to be fun! Keep it simple you know
If the wond is too serious the best would be to respawn, obviously.
Just wanted to say that, hope I diden't ruin your discussion.

Btw, I learn more on Treipwire forums then in school. All thanks to you guys

 

[Fedorov]

Just remember boys, it got to be fun! Keep it simple you know
If the wond is too serious the best would be to respawn, obviously.
Just wanted to say that, hope I diden't ruin your discussion.

Btw, I learn more on Treipwire forums then in school. All thanks to you guys

This is why I'm worried about...

Any wounding system... if realistic, is NOT gonna be fun (Operation Flashpoint)

This is one of the areas in which I think TWI should shift more towards original unrealistic RO + Bandages, instead of crazy crippling systems with hard to control avatar. Nobody wants to play a crippled soldier.

A lot of people might as well type suicide and start new if their current condition puts them at a disadvantage.

 

[BATTERIES]

A lot of people might as well type suicide and start new if their current condition puts them at a disadvantage.

Well tough bananas on them. They shouldnt have got shot in the first place.

 

[Nylle]

Basaicly, you got a bullet in your leg, there are 2 options:

Realistic: In real life getting shot means out of action. Wich in-game means respawn.
Un-realistic: Getting shot wounds you(like in Ostfront) and you will be less effective, like running slower. (Wich is werry realistic compared to other games.

Well, I hope TW keeps it fun and simple.

 

[Capt.Cool]

Bandages would be applied to the limbs, as body shots would incapacitate the soldier.

hmmm. In RO1 you can survive a shot in the belly or the chest. (pistol ammo of course)