How to enchance Team play?

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ross

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"Yes but"

Yes but the majority of people are expecting an easyer system
Really? So far I count you and one other guy. Two people. That really is some 'majority' you've got there. :rolleyes:

new players always expect an easyer system to play with the Battlefield one offers such experience that is why it is so popular.
New players can either learn to use what is in the game, or they can piss off and play BF3. This game is not supposed to be easy, and if they are too stupid to figure out something as simple as using the map without crying about the game being too hard, I'd rather they didn't play it.

I understand that Ro 2 is a more realistic game but the producers need to redo something in order to improve that.
No they don't, because there is NOTHING WRONG WITH IT

Let me say that again, for what must be about the twentieth time,

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM

Nobody else seems to have any trouble with it. This is probably because most people who play the game have at least some degree of intellectual power.

Because at the moment the command to issue which objectives to atack is pointless. It needs to be reworked.
Since when? It works fine every time I order a team to do something, because they all go and do it. If they don't, then it's because I got shafted and ended up commanding a bunch of drooling retards. That's not the game's fault, it's theirs.

Also the spawns are a huge issue.
HOW?

The spawns are fine. YOU CAN SPAWN ON YOUR GODDAMN SQUAD LEADER IF YOU ARE REALLY THAT BAD AT FINDING HIM.

But the squad markers and the colours are pretty buggy they don't appear all the time or some times at all that making the job a lot more stresful.
Utter bullcrap. They have always worked for me, from beta right up to now, and have also worked for everyone else I know. Either your install of the game is broken, or your eyesight is.

Pavlov's house is the most unbalanced map in the whole game the germans have clear shot to the russian spawn point that making an awful job for russian players to assault german positions.
Yes, we've established that Pavlov's House is badly designed. This is hardly anything new or surprising.

Honestly your posts just sound like whining to try and make the game easier for you, because almost nobody else wants anything you've suggested and all the excuses you're dreaming up are either a load of rubbish or something even a child could figure out. Go away and get better at the game before you make another giant whingefest about how the game is "too hard", and give the rest of us some respite from your awful posting. Thanks in advance.
 
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Because the only one arguing with me is Ross, I never saw other people contradicting this beside him. But the system we have is pretty buggy that make is pretty annoying to play for now.
 

ross

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Because the only one arguing with me is Ross, I never saw other people contradicting this beside him. But the system we have is pretty buggy that make is pretty annoying to play for now.
Probably because I am the only one here stupid enough to even try and argue with you, when all you do is repeat the same thing until you finally realise nobody likes it - and then you come up with something even worse.

Also, unless people are agreeing with you - and I mean lots, not just one - always assume that the majority either don't care or dislike it. I could come up with all sorts of horrible ideas and then say "oh but only one person has argued, so most people want it" and I'd be full of crap.

And no, the system is not buggy or annoying or difficult, you just need to learn to play the game without it holding your hand. Maybe play less BF3 so you can get used to actually having to do things for yourself?
 

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I say this again I DONT MEAN TO MAKE IT LIKE BATTLEFIELD 3 I just gave it as an example I said to add some tweaches to the current system to make it easyer to spot your squad. Because unless you have a microphone you can't really do anything to play as a squad in game.

And I don't see anyone of you comming with original ideeas just complaining about my ideeas that wouldn't work and mocking them because you think of yourselfs as smartasses. So what are your ideeas if you think mine wouldn't work?
 
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I say this again I DONT MEAN TO MAKE IT LIKE BATTLEFIELD 3 I just gave it as an example I said to add some tweaches to the current system to make it easyer to spot your squad. Because unless you have a microphone you can't really do anything to play as a squad in game.
This is patently false.

There are inbuilt voice commands, F + click commands, text chat, and spawn-on-SL. There are two separate systems to find the SL. The problem is not with the game, it is with the idiots who play it - and we've seen what happens to games when you design them around catering to idiots.
 

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The spawn points are a huge issue in the game like Pavlovs house you get killed just when you spawn at a specific point. You can play that map without getting angry :mad:. Also the majority of the commands are pretty buggy because not every time you send it or type. Like when you type messages many times the message just doesn't appear. Or when typing when the map is changing it exits on the spectator view when you type specific keys. Also a very annoying thing is that many times while in-game the "y" key changes with the "z" key.
 

ross

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The spawn points are a huge issue in the game like Pavlovs house you get killed just when you spawn at a specific point. You can play that map without getting angry :mad:.
This is because of bad level design, has been brought up many times in other threads, and has absolutely zero relevance to squads or the command system or teamplay (which this thread is supposedly about). :confused:

Also the majority of the commands are pretty buggy because not every time you send it or type.
That's odd, because I've never had trouble. I've never heard anyone else complain about it, either.

Like when you type messages many times the message just doesn't appear.
This is actually a legitimate issue that needs fixing, but simply re-typing your message works. It only happens if you type messages too rapidly, I think it's some kind of anti-spam measure but more often than not it's just annoying.

Or when typing when the map is changing it exits on the spectator view when you type specific keys.
What?

If you're going to start talking about bugs, it might be an idea to actually be specific about them, or nobody is going to have a clue what you're talking about.

Also a very annoying thing is that many times while in-game the "y" key changes with the "z" key.
Rubbish. This has never happened to me or anyone I know. Either your game install is broken, or your keyboard is.
 

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My keyboard has no problem I bought a new one yesterday and the thing is that also my friends have the same problem with the: Z and Y keys.
 

ross

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Is it a multilanguage keyboard? I have never heard of issues with keys switching, but in RO1 I found that pressing shift + alt to dive into cover would switch my keyboard from ENG-US to DVORAK or some crazy ****, which meant none of my keys were where they should have been and I couldn't play the game properly until I pressed it again. I found a setting somewhere in Windows' input config, turned it off, and haven't had trouble since... but that was years ago, on a different PC and different version of Windows.
 

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Same problem I also reinstaled the game and the problem persists. Strangely enough it only happens after I play more than 1 hour in-game.
 

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Is not any of those problems I reinstaled them last weekend and the odd thing is that also my friends have the same problem. Or maybe the problem appears only if you modify the Default keys.
 

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I don't know what the problem is but it still persists in the game even now. I play many games: Bf 3, Arma 2, Men of war, World of tanks, Diablo 3 and I didn't encountered such a problem with the keyboard so it must be the game.
 

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Ok look at this picture I made them while playing a match, can anyone see which is your squad when you use tactical view? http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045170754/screenshot/595846901614311437/? or http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198045170754/screenshot/595846901614330613

Sure you can use the map to orientate but what would be the point of that on such a map maybe if the commander would add a feature to set the path for the teammates to follow. But how can you find your squad members in this chaos. Even with mic it is stil very hard to find them. And I don't know the need of turning off to see your squad names at a distance I know it is realism and all of that but why not turn it off only for specific classes or squad members. Because if you play like that is very chaotic.
 
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ross

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Find your squad leader and follow him. The rest of your squad will either follow or take off on their own, who cares? You're making Mount Everest out of the tiniest mole hill in the history of burrowing mammals.
 
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