how do you roll with the noob cannon (M99)?

[Trotskygrad]

I love going M99 medic on the patty round... it's rather fun

Also, it's worth mentioning to noobs that one good headshot on scrakes is better than body shot -> stun -> headshot and that they should take the time to aim.

Lastly dual M99s = gg FPs.

 

[Amber Glass]

Dual M99s= GG any fun to be had in that game.

the only fun way to use the M99 is offperk, and not on pat round.

 

[Merdic]

I love going M99 medic on the patty round... it's rather fun

Also, it's worth mentioning to noobs that one good headshot on scrakes is better than body shot -> stun -> headshot and that they should take the time to aim.

Lastly dual M99s = gg FPs.

I don't use the M99 at all, it's boring to use and dulls the game tremendously for everyone else involved just by having an ounce and a half of "skill" while using it. The only thing I mean by skill for M99 sharpshooters is miraculously NOT spamming bodyshots at scrakes and raging every other FP before someone who knows what they're doing can get to it to nearly get half the team killed several times per wave.
This sounds harsh but more often than not this is exactly how many pub games I'm in with an M99 involved go, then when it's a wipe the guy with the noob cannon blames everyone but himself and ragequits.

Using an M99 on the patriarch turns the fight into a joke, half the team can go afk and you'll still win easily.

 

[Trotskygrad]

Dual M99s= GG any fun to be had in that game.

the only fun way to use the M99 is offperk, and not on pat round.

what perk do you use it with off perk? support?

 

[Zerginfestor]

I don't use the M99 at all, it's boring to use and dulls the game tremendously for everyone else involved just by having an ounce and a half of "skill" while using it. The only thing I mean by skill for M99 sharpshooters is miraculously NOT spamming bodyshots at scrakes and raging every other FP before someone who knows what they're doing can get to it to nearly get half the team killed several times per wave.
This sounds harsh but more often than not this is exactly how many pub games I'm in with an M99 involved go, then when it's a wipe the guy with the noob cannon blames everyone but himself and ragequits.

Using an M99 on the patriarch turns the fight into a joke, half the team can go afk and you'll still win easily.

Pretty much this. To rely on the M99 is to make yourself a joke to others. It shows literally you have no skill whatsoever in the game, and shouldn't be taken seriously. I remember grabbing the gun on Solo to see if it had any difficulty whatsoever, such as swaying, trying to focus on a target, only to be disappointed that there's absolutely no swaying, the crosshairs are still as death itself. It was like shooting shambling dummies, no actual skill to use the weapon, and with distance, it was pretty much a "take your time, yawn" moment, yet the Noobs *****ing about it at me, stating it takes skill and I'm just a 'pussy', only to see them ragequit when they make an FP rage and beat them to death to humiliate them even further, or die by simple trash because they're too lazy to look around quickly, while my dual-wielding shenanigans kept me alive by wiping out trash AND help break down an FP/scrakes health if needed.

 

[Althamus]

I tend to go with crossbow on patty round if I'm playing the "run and snipe" style W11. Lighter, and more flexibility with the extra weapon space (katana or MP7M by choice).

Also, without the DR that the scrake and FP have, the Xbow isn't -that- much worse than the M99. As in, more shots, but not like double the number needed.

I occassionally use it as a sharpshooter, but not much because it's very much "All eggs in one basket" and I'm 100% reliant on my team. Which is often a silly thing to do.

 

[Amber Glass]

what perk do you use it with off perk? support?

either support or demolitions with pipes for the lulz

 

[Trotskygrad]

either support or demolitions with pipes for the lulz

I need to roll M99 support one of these days... it's an awfully pleasing weapon to use albeit cheap as ****

I just love it's animations and sound.

 

[Amber Glass]

i have a friend that likes to use M99, HSG1, and med gun/HC/other four weight weapons, or M99, combat shotty, MK23, though sometimes she will do M99, hunting shotgun, or M99, m14, Mk23, and these are pretty solid loadouts that let you take scrakes with the shotgun combos, and maintains a good amount of perked weapons strengths benefitted by the M99s ability to take out husks and sirens easily and from greater range than support normally has.

 

[Lacedaemonius]

Spoiler!

i have a friend that likes to use M99, HSG1, and med gun/HC/other four weight weapons, or M99, combat shotty, MK23, though sometimes she will do M99, hunting shotgun, or M99, m14, Mk23, and these are pretty solid loadouts that let you take scrakes with the shotgun combos, and maintains a good amount of perked weapons strengths benefitted by the M99s ability to take out husks and sirens easily and from greater range than support normally has.

yadda yadda yadda

I can understand the greater range for husks & sirens, but what can it possibly do that the axe/katana + coach gun doesn't do better against scrakes? is it even possible to take FPs like that?

 

[Althamus]

I can understand the greater range for husks & sirens, but what can it possibly do that the axe/katana + coach gun doesn't do better against scrakes? is it even possible to take FPs like that?

I'm surprised at the loadout too. The M99 will be lacking the sharp's 2.4x damage, and reload speed. I guess you could get 2 M99s and a HSG to the face, but wouldn't have thought that'd be enough on harder difficulties.

Also, if you're taking husks and sirens with the M99, you'll run out of ammo SO quickly.

 

[DarkFalz]

I'm surprised at the loadout too. The M99 will be lacking the sharp's 2.4x damage, and reload speed. I guess you could get 2 M99s and a HSG to the face, but wouldn't have thought that'd be enough on harder difficulties.

Also, if you're taking husks and sirens with the M99, you'll run out of ammo SO quickly.

I've tried the M99/Hunting Shotgun loadout before:

Killing Floor: 6 Player HOE KF-IceCave Waves 9,10+Pat - YouTube

Even when I'm having to take 2 shots on Scrakes, there's enough ammo to kill all of them and have some left over for Husks as long as you don't miss too many shots.

As for Fleshpounds, the Hunting Shotgun + grenades combo still works fine on them.

 

[Splatpope]

i dont

 

[Althamus]

As for Fleshpounds, the Hunting Shotgun + grenades combo still works fine on them.

*Facedesk* Just because I have an M99 doesn't mean I need to use it all the time. You make a very good point.

 

[Trotskygrad]

i dont

I'm guessing you don't roll with ze husk cannon either?

 

[Amber Glass]

I can understand the greater range for husks & sirens, but what can it possibly do that the axe/katana + coach gun doesn't do better against scrakes? is it even possible to take FPs like that?

you can instantly stun a scrake at any moment, without having to worry about a melee flinch being broke by a stray LAR round, crossbow bolt, bloat bile etc. and quickly follow up with a chin shot from the CSG or hunting, or you can kill them the traditional way at range with the M99. Plus its fun to use derpy loadouts because theyre not the most ideal loads, its more fun now to try different things for my friends and i, such as mini-flinch uppercuts and jump shots on scrakes as opposed to the age old axe/tana method.

 

[Lacedaemonius]

As for Fleshpounds, the Hunting Shotgun + grenades combo still works fine on them.

Was referring to

i have a friend that likes to use M99, HSG1, and med gun/HC/other four weight weapons, or M99, combat shotty, MK23, though sometimes she will do M99, hunting shotgun, or M99, m14, Mk23,

the other loadouts w/o the coach gun.

 

[Amber Glass]

if you know armored puppy, she runs those loads quite a bit, and she has managed a few FP combos with the combat shotgun, not sure if she had one for the HSG1 though, but usually theres someone else around to can take the FPs or at least chip in

 

[ArmoredPuppy]

I can understand the greater range for husks & sirens, but what can it possibly do that the axe/katana + coach gun doesn't do better against scrakes? is it even possible to take FPs like that?

This is a little late, and no longer that relevant since the m99 ammo price increase, but I still thought I'd respond anyway.

It's hard to beat the effectiveness of your typical power support loadouts (read axe/katana + HSG-1/Combat/Pump/AA12 + Hunting + optional sidearm), so the m99 loadouts I used to use were never about being more powerful, they were more simply about variety, and in the mk23, m14, m99 case, challenge.

For the Mk23, Combat, M99 loadout, the ways to deal with Scrakes and Fleshpounds were fairly simple.

[Scrakes]
- 2 m99 shots
- 1 m99 shot, 2-3 combat shotgun headshots or reverse the order
- 12 Mk23 headshots, reload, m99 shot, mk23 shots until decap

[Fleshpounds]
- Nade, Double Combat shot, Nade, Nade, reload Combat, spam until dead
- Combat headshot, Nade, Combat shot, Nade, Nade, reload Combat, spam until dead

Hunting + m99 was pretty similar to the Combat combos.

[Scrake]
- 2 m99 shots
- m99 shot, Double barrel headshot

[Fleshpound]
- Your typical Hunting combo

For the Mk23, M14, m99 loadout, Scrakes were fun because they had the option to be super easy, or a little more exciting if you had room, but FPs took a little more thinking. I haven't used it in a while so I may be misremembering the exact numbers.

[Scrakes]
- 2 m99 shots
- 7 m14 shots, 1 m99 shot (this can also be done by flinchlocking, then backing up a step and firing the m99)
- 6 m14 shots, 1 m99 shot, m14/mk23/9mm shots until decap (personally I'd do this and let friends try to get the decap)
- 16 M14 shots by flinchlocking

[Fleshpounds]
- m14 headshot, m14 headshot, Nade, m14 headshot, Nade, Nade, m99 shot
- m14 headshot, m14 headshot, Nade, m14 headshot, Nade, Nade, Nade (this one was much more consistent so I opted for it 90% of the time it was 6 players)

You can see a partial example of the last move here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJv8-dYsYQ&feature=plcp#t=12m[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrJv8-dYsYQ&feature=plcp#t=12m[/URL]

Really it's a shame about the ammo price. Mk23, m14, m99 was definitely one of my favorite Support loadouts. Karsey called it Sharpport, which I always thought was a great name + rapper name.

I mean the loadout is still doable, just, meehhh, I don't want to focus so hard on making sure I have enough money to make it happen.

 

[RonaldLee]

When the M99 first came out it was nice to have a weapon that would take down an FP at a reasonable price. I liked it as it was upon first release.

Later the ammo was jacked up to $5,000 to fill it up and the weapon's power was substantially dwarfed. It has become an undesirable weapon, rarely bought and rarely used. How do you ever expect to get the cash for that weapon on Suicidal or HOE?