Helmet Deflection

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mstm1

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Hi, i was just wondering if it wouldn't be more realistic if,when wearing a helmet, there was a small chance that it might deflect the shot, and possibly even knock it off. This would give more use for the helmet than just decoration. If this is in there already i'm sorry but wouldn't it be good if sometimes you could actually see the helmet have an effect by getting it knocked off every now and then. It's just the deflecting shot action with the tanks adds more complexity to the tank combat rather than just whoever shoots first is guaranteed to get the kill.
 

Jaesperson

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helmets were actually designed to protect your head from shrapnel and stuff flying around if something explodes nearby or a bullet hits the wall next to you.
 

Silky_Slim

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The only round that a helmet might deflect at a good angle is the pistol rounds and after theve lost some velocity, don't expect a high powered 7.62 or 7.92 to deflect, well mabye at a certain angle it would pierce the helmet and skim the soldier's head.:confused: I don't think its worth adding in.
 
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mstm1

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Yeah but still when ure havin a pistol fight and someone manages to hit ure helmet and u die u don't even see their helmet or hat fly off. Think how cool it would be to be ducking and ure hat flying off, and ure team mates laughing sayin' "close one mate" and stuff like that. It happens in films that are historically accurate.
 

RedStorm

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I HOPE you're not referring to Saving Private Ryan, because that sniper round deflecting off that guy's helmet was just bollocks. A helmet doesn't deflect any rifle round. It's there to protect you from debris, falling demage, ricochets and fragments. Not bullets.
 

piller

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Hollywood has never been a good reference.

If a soldier is wearing a chinstrap then I doubt their helmet would fall off. I do believe if you hit someone in the head their helment will fall off
 

Spawn

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How do you know that was a sniper round? It could of been a stray bullet.
 

Crim

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goodness gracious this topic is so incredibly bad that it's good

yes infantry combat should now be exactly like tank combat

russians pinned down behind sandbags would be immune to fire due to their helmet armor deflecting all bullets and the germans would have to shoot them in the side of the helmet and hope it penetrates their ammo box so they explode

by the way I don't think a bullet being 'stray' has any effect on how powerful it is
 

Zbojnik

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Helmets lack the protection to stop rifle rounds. However at 700m the Polish Wz.31 could stop a 7.92 round. But that's 700m. A pistol round I could believe, especially at a distance. The US M1917 WWI helmet could stop a .45 from 10 feet.
 
LOL, yea, you get an A for at least bringing a better idea than adding crosshairs, but bullet deflection on helmits is going to be a no.

But as for the other idea about having the helmit fly off if your hit in the head just right, I think that would be neat to see a helmit fly off every once in a while.
 

Sgt.Rock

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well, ive seen some WW2 training footage of an American shooting a german helmet (WW2 style) with a m1911A1 and it just put large dents into the helmet.

Seeing as there are a large amount of SMG in game, it wouldnt be a bad idea to have pistol rounds ding out from a certain distance. It would give rifle users that little extra stopping power.
 

Spawn

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It did.

The lining was woven of cotton twine in meshes three-eighths of an inch square. This web, fitting tightly upon the wearer's head, evenly distributed the weight of the two-pound helmet, and in the same way distributed the force of any blow upon the helmet. The netting, together with the small pieces of rubber around the edge of the lining, kept the helmet away from the head, so that even a relatively large dent could not reach the wearer's skull.
 

Spawn

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Yeah, modern helmets are made out of Kevlar. Thats why they call them Kevlar helmets. I'm not sure about the brand new ones such as the MICH. But I know that the PASGT is made out of Kevlar.
 

mstm1

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Im not saying it should be like tank combat but it seems you like to twist my words Crim. I just don't like it when in most tank combat games whoever gets the first shot is bound to win unless they are really bad aims. Red Orchestra doesn't have that and that's why it's so damn good. I just think that have the occasional deflect/helmet knock-off would be a nice touch. Off course you can disagree but only on what i have actually stated