Hardcore Realism Suggestions Package and Proposal, to Tripwire, modders and community

[Sarkis.]

I disagree. I think if they listened, it would be the best of what is now Realism and Classic.

That is precisely what Authentic Mode is! or another Authentic Mode (not necessarily like the one I wrote) would be.

Seriously Mr. Moe, I ask you to go back to the OP and give it a reader. I believe you have serious misconceptions about what the mode suggests.

 

[Korn-Y]

I don't really know if I have to support you or backstab you as you did (and still doing every single day) to me Sarkis. I already know I'll not play this mode, since you want to reduce (upward) recoil, sway, more zoom and keep the general Realism "speed" I find already too fast & too easy

Yes. The communities calls for more realism/authenticity were answered by not changing anything in Realism Mode, and with the Introduction of Classic Mode.

However that thread about Anti Tank Rifle Zoom has made it clear once and for all that Classic folk will never accept a more realistic Classic mode. They wan't it arcade.

Classic Mode is arcade, Realism Mode is arcade, Action Mode is arcade

Authentic is the only mode that is not arcade!

Your point of view is very simple too. And I don't really like your arrogant tone of voice. So people want Classic more arcade? Stop bullsh*t. I'm not looking for Realism a la ArmA2 like you are, but saying Classic is arcade because you don't like it is retarded...

 

[Proud_God]

..and keep the general Realism "speed" I find already too fast & too easy ...

Just replying to this part, because I think it's important: if you read the OP, movement speed will be like Realism on flat smooth surface.

Here are the points in question:

• 3.2 More Realistic character movement, speed, and specially inertia
Realism Mode's speeds. Strafing jog, pressing A or D, made somewhat slower than going foward, its acceleration also being slower. More expressive Inertia and Emcumbrance effects. Jogging costs a very small constant amount of stamina. Player rotation obeying to a maximum angular speed

• 3.12 Going upstairs more realistically
Character going uphill, upstairs, downstairs and ladders drain stamina, and speed be much slower. Character going downhill could also suffer speed penalties if decent is too steep

• 3.13 Winter Maps have slight character speed and acceleration reduction
Rougher terrain and thicker winter clothes as a good excuse

• 3.14 Differential Terrain Negotiation
Surface modifiers for running on snow, ice, loose dirt/gravel, debris, hardpan, etc. Affect speed and stamina drain rate.
Since each terrain has a different modifier for sound of steps, perhaps not so hard to implement

 

[Sarkis.]

I don't really know if I have to support you or backstab you as you did (and still doing every single day) to me Sarkis. I already know I'll not play this mode, since you want to reduce (upward) recoil, sway, more zoom and keep the general Realism "speed" I find already too fast & too easy

I tried to be friendly to you. Do not come here saying my criticism against what you want for Classic was a ''backstab''!

Your point of view is very simple too. And I don't really like your arrogant tone of voice. So people want Classic more arcade? Stop bullsh*t. I'm not looking for Realism a la ArmA2 like you are, but saying Classic is arcade because you don't like it is retarded...

You want classic more arcade! You said it yourself! You want it to have more sway, more recoil, less zoom, less speed based on nothing real! Based only on how ROOST's gameplay was. That is the definition of arcade. Not Modern Warfare 2 Arcade, but Arcade nonetheless.

And spare me of ''bullsh*t this, retard that'' attacks. You of all people. A frenchman should know some respect.

We have collectively bowed down to Classic Folks demands that Classic should be a mode about RO1 nostalgia feel.

But the poor guy asks more zoom for his Anti Tank rifle, to match all of the other rifles in classic and the respose he gets:

HELL. NO. PLEASE.

Can't we be a little more friendly now?

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

That is precisely what Authentic Mode is! or another Authentic Mode (not necessarily like the one I wrote) would be.

Seriously Mr. Moe, I ask you to go back to the OP and give it a reader. I believe you have serious misconceptions about what the mode suggests.

I will re-re-re-read it, but I'm sure there will be some things that I don't agree with. In any case, its unlikely any mode will please anyone completely.

I still maintain that somewhere between Realism and Classic is where I would want MY game.

That does not mean I don't endorse the Authentic mode you are trying to push. Just not officially. Adding more modes now or drastically altering what is there I feel would just botch things up.

As always, just my opinion.

 

[Sarkis.]

I will re-re-re-read it, but I'm sure there will be some things that I don't agree with.

Ok thanks
And If you disagree with stuff you are free to suggest

I still maintain that somewhere between Realism Mode and Classic is where I would want MY game.

In the spectrum of Realism VS Classic, I would say Authentic leans more to Classic but also way higher in the direction of ARMA II. Like those political inclination thinguies.

That does not mean I don't endorse the Authentic mode you are trying to push. Just not officially. Adding more modes now or drastically altering what is there I feel would just botch things up.

As always, just my opinion.

Fair enough, but again, nothing would be drastically changed at all.

 

[Sarkis.]

In the spectrum of Realism VS Classic, I would say Authentic leans more to Classic but also way higher in the direction of ARMA II. Like those political inclination thinguies.

 

[Proud_God]

UT would be top right, because in the future it would be realistic and authentic

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

And the chart is scientific, or did you close your eyes and randomly just picked a spot and label them?

 

[Randy Newman]

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I think you feel a little too strongly about this.

I voted "I don't care" because I really don't.

I'll play whatever most people are playing. I'm not...that...fussed about it I guess.

I just think that Tripwire should ignore this and spend its time creating new content for RO2, which, by the sound of things, is exactly what they're doing.

Also, given that you almost ritualistically reference ARMA2 (praise be upon its name ) in nearly every post, perhaps Iron Front: Liberation is a game that would better suit your needs, no?

Perhaps then you could spend more time in game rather than trying to ceaselessly change this one.

 

[Proud_God]

And the chart is scientific, or did you close your eyes and randomly just picked a spot and label them?

The spot was randomly picked and then the ideas were cooked up to match the spot, or so I heard

 

[PhoenixDragon]

Ah, Arma 2. The perfect example of how gamers will mistake "clunky" for "realistic."

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Ah, Arma 2. The perfect example of how gamers will mistake "clunky" for "realistic."

So so True!

 

[Sarkis.]

And the chart is scientific, or did you close your eyes and randomly just picked a spot and label them?

Its is just my personal take. But it isn't that terrible.

 

[Avtomat]

Chart

I think classic should be higher on the realism meter than so called "realism".

 

[Sarkis.]

Why is that ? Again this is all personal, but I regard classic as less realistic, while at the same time more faithful to authenticity

 

[Avtomat]

The velociraptor sprint speed, instant ironsighting, unlocks, no-sway mini sniperbattles and megaquick bandaging just don't fall into my image of realism.
Thats all.

 

[Sarkis.]

Yeah you are probably right, but neither of the modes is too much realistic anyway, the fact that the mode has different levels of zoom for each weapon, simply costs too much in the realism factor for me.

 

[>F|R< Sarcinelli]

I voted "yes" because I still have hope in this game.
Many of the changes Sarkis is proposing should have been in the Realism Mode from the beginning but if the only way to get these changes is creating a new mode, so be it!
Maybe a new mode will be a better solution anyway since it may potentialy bring back some players without pissing off the Realism loyalists in this forums... win/win!

 

[Neuromante]

I voted yes. With the same spirit of a kid who wishes Santa Claus was real.