I guess Zed time could be considered as V.A.T.S. for this type of perk.
Hmm what about a Fleshpound gauntlet as a useable weapon that would be brutal.
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I guess Zed time could be considered as V.A.T.S. for this type of perk.
Hmm what about a Fleshpound gauntlet as a useable weapon that would be brutal.
Hand to Hand combat could work. And if you're a strong man, why wouldn't you go bash some mutant heads together with your bare fists, why waste ammo on something you can take care of with your hands?
Give a man like the Mountain from Game of Thrones some gauntlets plated with metal, you'd bet he could go fisticuffs against a fleshpound.
There are a lot of "unarmed" weapons to choose from, ie. knuckle irons or wrist blades like in Predator, now those would be badass Tier 3 material weapons for a hand to hand class.
And on the subject of HtH combat being bland/boring, just take a look at Brick from Borderlands and tell me if you prefer his fists or guns. I barely shot guns with Brick unless they were rocket launchers.
Aaaaand on the subject of "stretching it out with melee weapons" I know for a fact that If I'd be in a zombie/mutant apocalypse, the first thing I would start looking for would be an axe or a crowbar, after grabbing knives of course. Then I'd consider finding firearms.
Because unlike firearms, melee weapons are:
Silent (mostly)
Easy to handle (anyone can grab an axe and swing it, but not all can shoot a gun)
Do not need ammo (whatcha gonna do when you run out of bullets)
Do not malfunction (oh **** your gun jammed and you're surrounded)
Need little to no repair (even after longer periods of use)
Easily found everywhere (considering melee weapons, any household is basically an armory)
Naturally if all your enemies would know how to handle a gun, then you'd like a gun too, but this is not the case here, so far only Patriarch can shoot bullets, flames shot by the Husk can be evaded easily with elevation, although the new flamer ****s you up, but hey that's why you have pals with guns.
Give a man like the Mountain from Game of Thrones some gauntlets plated with metal, you'd bet he could go fisticuffs against a fleshpound.
There are a lot of "unarmed" weapons to choose from, ie. knuckle irons or wrist blades like in Predator, now those would be badass Tier 3 material weapons for a hand to hand class.
And on the subject of HtH combat being bland/boring, just take a look at Brick from Borderlands and tell me if you prefer his fists or guns. I barely shot guns with Brick unless they were rocket launchers.
Aaaaand on the subject of "stretching it out with melee weapons" I know for a fact that If I'd be in a zombie/mutant apocalypse, the first thing I would start looking for would be an axe or a crowbar, after grabbing knives of course. Then I'd consider finding firearms.
Because unlike firearms, melee weapons are:
Silent (mostly)
Easy to handle (anyone can grab an axe and swing it, but not all can shoot a gun)
Do not need ammo (whatcha gonna do when you run out of bullets)
Do not malfunction (oh **** your gun jammed and you're surrounded)
Need little to no repair (even after longer periods of use)
Easily found everywhere (considering melee weapons, any household is basically an armory)
Naturally if all your enemies would know how to handle a gun, then you'd like a gun too, but this is not the case here, so far only Patriarch can shoot bullets, flames shot by the Husk can be evaded easily with elevation, although the new flamer ****s you up, but hey that's why you have pals with guns.
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I just have this vision of barbaric brutality in my head, running through the corridors, ducking past zeds, jabbing and swinging as you go by. Knock a clot onto the ground with a right haymaker, stun another one with a jab to the face as it's about to grab you, then uppercut his face off. A crawler jumps at you, you slide under it and kick the bloat in the gut as he's about to puke, knocking him back so your sharp can headshot it from a safe distance.
Running through the hallways, pushing and shoving and kicking zeds away and setting them up for knockouts with your big-*** metal fist. If TWI did fists as good as I can imagine them, then there's no way people could argue against it.
Running through the hallways, pushing and shoving and kicking zeds away and setting them up for knockouts with your big-*** metal fist. If TWI did fists as good as I can imagine them, then there's no way people could argue against it.
I mean hey, they completely redid melee in KF2 to the benefit of the Berserker. Why spend all that time working on mechanics that are an afterthought for all but one of the classes? Why not make that one a two? There's totally room for a second melee-based perk.
Lots of people are wary on whether it's a good idea, but I think it's more of a question of "will it will be done well" rather than "is it a decent idea?"
The speculation is that the Dragon Perk is:
A) Martial Arts / Hand-to-Hand
or
B) Bladed Weapon Specialist (where blunt / improvised weaponry is all moved to Berserker)
you mean when they have afew slabs of concrete or wood planks balanced across two pillars with nothing below supporting them?
'a strong man, well-trained'? a little girl could break those.
those magic tricks are supposed to entertain little kids.
that's not rly saying much.
anyone can cave in skulls and break bones without hunk of metal attatched to their hand. just knock them down and stamp on them and drop your knee on them, it doesn't require karate kid training.
a berserker will not be anywhere near as dangerous to specimens with fist weapons as he would with a fireaxe or machete because you can get alot more reach and power from a fireaxe or a machete, just the rules of our universe.
i wouldn't say it could be amazing but it could be good. however not by using real life because as an example as it would be good from ridiculous ott gory fun with doom like fists.
yes definitely with knuckles dusters and such fist weapons or even bare fists could be punching in trash specimens heads.
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yea dragon perk as some kung fu with supernatural flying kicks and such would be fun.
but what would be fun in kf with hand to hand has nothing to do with actual fighting of people.
most hand to hand training in forces is just wrestling that gives u opportunity to use a knife.
if you're trying to kill someone then you don't waste time focusing on punching and kicking as it doesn't rly do anything. you are wrestling them to stab them or if you don't have a knife then you strangle them.
while you are grappling the main place they teach you to punch, knee and elbow is in their belly to wind them, spit in their eyes, gouge their eyes with your fingers or thumbs, go down their pants and get hold of their genitals and crush their balls or twist and tear off their genitals, and all that sort of stuff which is just to distract them by causing physical and psychological pain to make easier the goal that is choking them to death.
ppl wouldn't rly want to use the silly time wasting stuff that u see on whatever fake tv fighting and stuff.
real fighting against people would not be fun in first person shooter, we would just want doom fists punching clots in the head with silly gory results.
fist weapons wouldn't have to be limited to being weak weapons either as could have all fictional technology for higher tiers like gravity technology n such but would just fit in better in zerker even if they did do it. definitely not rly any need for a seperate class. i wouldn't be suprised if knuckle dusters were already zerkers basic melee weapon.
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I remember this game, it wasn't bad, alas it didn't have much success.
Aniway, an entire perk is probably too much, but a few very cool and flamboyant cestuses (like fleshpound cestus) for the zerker would be real cool.
Also, I believe the dragon perk to be a subspecies of the firebug, not the zerker.
How do you suppose one could diversify the firebug perk to the point where it would deserve its own perk slot?
Weapons with incendiary bullets maybe, I don't know, it's the only thing that came to my mind.
I don't think there will be a hand to hand perk (of course I can't know it, but it just feels unlikely), and I doubt there will be a division like "blunt weapons for zerker, blade weapons for dragon guy" since we already saw the katana being used by a berzerker.
When I see a dragon I think about fire, in KF1 there was the trench gun that used dragon's breath shells, that's what I thought, all in all.
Of course I could be totally wrong and you guys could be right, or maybe it will be something completely different altogether, it's really just speulation.
I don't think there will be a hand to hand perk (of course I can't know it, but it just feels unlikely), and I doubt there will be a division like "blunt weapons for zerker, blade weapons for dragon guy" since we already saw the katana being used by a berzerker.
When I see a dragon I think about fire, in KF1 there was the trench gun that used dragon's breath shells, that's what I thought, all in all.
Of course I could be totally wrong and you guys could be right, or maybe it will be something completely different altogether, it's really just speulation.
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