Gunslinger Perk - Yes or No?
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3-5 kills per zedtime? No way lol, you can just barely get that 1 kill in one zedtime, 3-5 seems more realistic IF a commando or zerker extends ZT a few times.
Unless you were talking about that idea of having somehow what longer zedtime for GS?
Sounds good.
Or would it get a bit annoying if zedtimes were triggered every 30 seconds :S? I mean in those cases when you are trying to weld a door or just running to the trader and it triggers lol (of course wouldnt bother the GS who is killing at the time but the team).
As a SS with a 9mm, I have gotten 6 headshots/kills in one zed time, with a commando extending it, I have gotten more than a dozen with a good straight away
I say Yes to the Gunslinger Perk. Make the reload time on the pistols an insane amount to compensate for low damage. Remove hc and 9mm from the SS (SS can keep the headshot stuff though because thats his job). Add a .45 preferably a 1911 style. for the tier 3. The .45 can be dual wielded and remove the dual hcs (in real life even if it was 44 mag deagles there still a pain to fire.
Talking about zed time kills if you use the lar its 1 and a reload if you use the 9mm no extention ofcourse this was a perfect time I headshoted 5 clots 2 bloats and came close to getting a gorefast zed time ended then about half a second later I killed it so almost 8 kills in a single zed time. (I was sighted in fully loaded 9mm and was level 6 SS)
Talking about zed time kills if you use the lar its 1 and a reload if you use the 9mm no extention ofcourse this was a perfect time I headshoted 5 clots 2 bloats and came close to getting a gorefast zed time ended then about half a second later I killed it so almost 8 kills in a single zed time. (I was sighted in fully loaded 9mm and was level 6 SS)
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One UNEXTENDED zed-time lasts like what, three seconds? A 9mm doesnt even fire fast enough during slowmotion to kill 6 specimens in 3 seconds. Maybe with dual wields, tho?
Reload times wouldn't be worth it. Keep the dual Handcannons, dual wielding would be one of the few advantages they'd have over a Revolver the others being an extra bullet and faster reload (I would argue for reducing the accuracy of dual HCs a bit though.)
Besides, Deagles are never portrayed realistically in gaming. In fact you wouldn't even see them in a truly realistic game since no army in the real world uses them.
yes i like it but they should take away the pistol stuff to the, sharpshooter. the sharpshooter is way too overpowered anyway.
full auto clocks with 15 rounds mag would be nice. good for crowd control, shoots fast but low damage.
full auto clocks with 15 rounds mag would be nice. good for crowd control, shoots fast but low damage.
I voted yes a long time ago.
Dual deagles, while not being super effective, feel and sound so good they make me want the Gunslinger.
Give the gunslinger a perk-enhanced rate of fire without the reload speed of SS, and larger clip sizes. Let them go in spraying lead on the move, shooting from the hip.
Imagine emptying dual deagles firing 50% faster, with larger clips. Imagine really, really quick weapon switches for lots and lots of pistol ammo to chew through quickly.
The Gunslinger's niche would be mobility AND short to med range killing power, with it's own playstyle separate from supports with their "fire one shot and take two-steps forward, fire and take-two steps forward," and berzerkers with their death wish.
They'd perform better against single strong targets at med to short range than swarms of easies (although dual 9s with extra damage, higher rate of fire, and bigger clips would shred clots and crawler packs.)
That sounds niche enough. Tonight while playing, I was carrying an M79, Pipebombs, a Handcannon and an EBR.
Can you guess what perk I was playing? Exactly what niche was I filling there, except the "KIll Everything" niche?
Dual deagles, while not being super effective, feel and sound so good they make me want the Gunslinger.
Give the gunslinger a perk-enhanced rate of fire without the reload speed of SS, and larger clip sizes. Let them go in spraying lead on the move, shooting from the hip.
Imagine emptying dual deagles firing 50% faster, with larger clips. Imagine really, really quick weapon switches for lots and lots of pistol ammo to chew through quickly.
The Gunslinger's niche would be mobility AND short to med range killing power, with it's own playstyle separate from supports with their "fire one shot and take two-steps forward, fire and take-two steps forward," and berzerkers with their death wish.
They'd perform better against single strong targets at med to short range than swarms of easies (although dual 9s with extra damage, higher rate of fire, and bigger clips would shred clots and crawler packs.)
That sounds niche enough. Tonight while playing, I was carrying an M79, Pipebombs, a Handcannon and an EBR.
Can you guess what perk I was playing? Exactly what niche was I filling there, except the "KIll Everything" niche?
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Trickshots
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I think this is a good idea for a class, but it would be fun to make it a prestige class by having all of its skills based on making fantastic shots.
Shooting a thrown grenade before it hits the ground= massive damage.
5 headsots in a row and 6th is massive damage or activates some sort of bonus.
Etc.
You guys come up with some more ideas plz.
Chubby
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I think this is a good idea for a class, but it would be fun to make it a prestige class by having all of its skills based on making fantastic shots.
Shooting a thrown grenade before it hits the ground= massive damage.
5 headsots in a row and 6th is massive damage or activates some sort of bonus.
Etc.
You guys come up with some more ideas plz.
Chubby
Hate the idea. It's impossible to hit anything with dual eagles as it is unless the Zed is standing on your toes munching on you. Just do not see the point of a load of different pistols. And having to reload every 10 seconds because of the mag limit and lower accuracy and stopping power at range. It'll just be another 'support' but with pistols. Horrible horrible idea. Just doesn't add any value.
its fairly easy to hit with dual eagles on normal maps like london and so on. even tough they are far away.
Just because YOU cant hit anything with dual pistols, doesnt make this idea bad. And like stated before, the dual pistols would be close/medium combat weaponary while the possible magnum (if it was implemented) could be used on medium/long ranges.
Besides, you can always just buy 1 pistol OR not use the perk.
You have to reload every 10 seconds with almost every other weapon in the game aswell -_-... At least if you want to keep a full mag whenever possible.
And if this perk is about pistols, surely the magsize and ammo capacity would be increased, especially for dual handcannons. The current 9mm pistols have quite a lot of ammo even atm tho.
What comes to accuracy, does every perk need a pinpoint accuracy to work?
Except that his shots wont penetrate targets, he cant carry massive amounts of weaponary and he cant weld faster than the others...
Theres nothing similar to support perk here, except for the accuracy in longer distances WHICH can be countered by having a single pistol OR a magnum assuming it was in fact implemented.
my reason is that why take away from an existing perk...everyone complains about sharpshooter being too rediculous, when the truth is that sharpshooter is the only perk that is right. Balance the game by making other perks better, not by taking away from perks that seem elite compared to others.
You think that 1 player being able to kill everything single handedly on 6 player suicidal is right?
The perk seems elite because it is overpowered. Believe it or not, you are meant to die every now and again. If we were gonna make every perk as powerful as the sharpshooter then why dont we just cut the crap, have KF be 1 wave with the patriarch by himself and give him only enough health so a single knife stab will kill him.
.... WHAT?!
So you are saying the game is "right" when all players have infinite ammo, they do one shot kills and have a crosshair in center of the screen to help out aiming? Thats basically what SS is right now, m14 NEVER runs out of ammo, it has lasersight to simulate a crosshair and can kill anything with 1-3 shots on any difficulty with any amount of players... Its like you had a godmode.
SO yea, lets give everyone godmode and the game is fixed!
i have this crosshair on my AK, SCAR, flamethrower, shot guns and melee weapons.......it's called aiming in the middle of your screen 
i believe what he meant was to raise difficulty / other clases power / damage levels to match the sharpie. (that way the sharps wont feel like they got arse raped, everyone else is happy because there favourite class kicks nads again, and the game is sorta ballanced again). the problem arrises in that its hard to keep making the game more and more difficult without eventually nerfing something.. (although the possibility exists to increase base Zed count; which dramatically increases difficult)
but yeah, just about everything you siad QFT..