Guns

[TacticalMonkey11b]

Lets start of by stating the obvious. The bullpup is a weapon design style not a gun name what so ever.

And now to the gun itself. The bullpup ( L85 Carbine) is the ugliest weapon i have ever seen in my entire life. PLEASE ADD A NORMAL L85 and im sure everybody can agree with me on that. and just for fun give us a Chicago typewriter =)

Now to the L.A.W.

WTF IS THAT. because i can guarantee that thats not what a LAW looks like by not use somthing that at least is the same size and look as the M72 law or even the SMAW seeing as that thats the british anti tank weapon there using

now to the Crossbow

Sharpshooter...Crossbow. I havnt seen those two words together since the medieval ages. Give us a real sniper rifle
Suggestion= Dragunov, L96 Arctic Warfare and im sure some more people could come up with more rifles ( not any .50 cal because that would be retarded in this game)

Flamethrowers have no recoil at all in real life

Explosive suggestion= C4 plastic explosive with clacker

 

[213]

why not 50 cal? in fact when dealing with things like flesh pounds, would the military not prefer extremely powerful anti material rifles?

 

[dextronaut]

Lets start of by stating the obvious. The bullpup is a weapon design style not a gun name what so ever. And now to the gun itself. The bullpup ( L85 Carbine) is the ugliest weapon i have ever seen in my entire life. PLEASE ADD A NORMAL L85 and im sure everybody can agree with me on that. and just for fun give us a Chicago typewriter =)

you sound very whiny but i do agree with you about the crossbow. its not my fav weapon, so i just never use it. but some ppl do like it. the whole thing about the bullpup though, sorry but the L85 looks about the same no matter what type it is, theyre just all really ugly. im more of a FAMAS guy personally when it comes to bullpups. but anyways, there is no "normal" L85.

a thompson? wouldnt you much rather have a PPSH41?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Пистолет-пулемет_системы_Шпагина_обр._1941.jpg

 

[TacticalMonkey11b]

why not 50 cal? in fact when dealing with things like flesh pounds, would the military not prefer extremely powerful anti material rifles?

Dude, a friend of mine thats an army sniper says that every 60 pounds worth of gear for his barret m107 not only that the gun 30 and then another 10 pounds of ammo the bipod ways 2 pounds and the normal scope about 5-6 pounds so NO THEY WOULDNT send a ground team with a .50 cal sniper.

 

[TacticalMonkey11b]

there is no "normal" L85.

a thompson? wouldnt you much rather have a PPSH41?

YES THERE IS A NORMAL ONE [url]http://www.airsoftgunconnection.com/image_manager/attributes/image/image_1/41501754_9351386.jpg[/URL]

AND NO i would not... Chicago typewriter

[url]http://www.femmesfatales.peachhost.com/ct_i36-700.JPG[/URL]

Thompson fires a .45 caliber round wtf would i want a ppsh for it shoots a 7.62 X 25 which is basically a 10mm round

 

[Colt .45 killer]

no dextro. tommy with the 100 round drum mag... EAT SHYTE AND DIE FLESSHIEPOUNDASSS....

 

[Svetloste]

honestly the Pup is a nice gun, and i do like it, i do agree they should name it properly but then they would have to name them all properly.

 

[Cradle Of Filth]

Use it and dont complaing about it ...

I lol so much about people crying because the name of the weapon XD

 

[HeavyArms]

Something more kickin!

Something more kickin!

To survive, we need something more kickin!

If I was the KF programer I would like to include this weapon
on the trader's shop :

1. AK-47

2. SG-550 Sniper

3. M4A1

4. MK-46

5. GB-36

I know that's kinda CS-S things but hey, KF now become world wide and need variety of weapons! We are dealing with
more than one speciments in here. And we need to blast them
all in any range necessary. We are in the field Soldier!

- Look alive men! Its game time! -

 

[Zeptorem]

Lets start of by stating the obvious. The bullpup is a weapon design style not a gun name what so ever.

And now to the gun itself. The bullpup ( L85 Carbine)

You mean L22 carbine.

is the ugliest weapon i have ever seen in my entire life. PLEASE ADD A NORMAL L85 and im sure everybody can agree with me on that.

I honestly don't think the "NORMAL L85" is any better.

Now to the L.A.W.

WTF IS THAT.

A LAW 80.

because i can guarantee that thats not what a LAW looks like by not use somthing that at least is the same size and look as the M72 law

There are multiple "LAW"s.

or even the SMAW seeing as that thats the british anti tank weapon there using

You're a funny guy. Only the USMC (and I think the RCMC but don't quote me on that) use the SMAW.

Suggestion= Dragunov, L96 Arctic Warfare

OH because those haven't been in every game ever.

and im sure some more people could come up with more rifles ( not any .50 cal because that would be retarded in this game)

And rocket launchers and flamethrowers are perfectly alright?

Flamethrowers have no recoil at all in real life

Newton's Third Law disagrees. Ever used a high-pressure hose?

Explosive suggestion= C4 plastic explosive with clacker

???

Seriously, I wouldn't have had a problem with this post at all if the OP weren't such an *** and he didn't pretend that he actually had any knowledge about guns or whatever.

 

[213]

the clackers he was referring to is a slang for claymore detonators, not a toy.

 

[Zeptorem]

the clackers he was referring to is a slang for claymore detonators, not a toy.

It's a joke.

 

[TacticalMonkey11b]

wow rly

wow rly

for one flame throwers have no recoil for the MOST PART

Law in the game looks nothing like the law pic u gave me the link for. and i know there are more then one.

I forgot that the spotting rifle on the smaw is british design and not that they use it.

well the .50 cal is impractical for a ground team to use in a situation like this. the gun weighs 30 pounds plus 10 pounds in ammo a 2 pound bipod and a 5-6 pound scope. so if it was in the game that would be stupid because u cant run around with a M107. also there are alot of people out there that agree with me on the dragunov being a gun in the game

WOW it is a L22... one point to mr. ego boner. and yes the L85 looks better then the L22.

 

[shaqism]

Sigh..If awp comes to kf im done

 

[Zeptorem]

Sigh..If awp comes to kf im done

Don't worry, you're not alone. Ditto for the katana, with me.

 

[Manticore]

the crossbow is a very common and useful hunting weapon. its not only cheaper and easier to use and maintain but its quite powerful and can easily down your average hunted animal. it also takes quite a bit of skill to use. this makes perfect sense for this game as a prime weapon for the sharpshooter.

also you talked about the Dragunav or SVD (Snayperskaya Vintovka Dragunava) as a replacement. first of all the handcannon would be pretty much exactly the same thing, except the Dragunav would have a scope. this is a high power, high range, semi automatic weapon. there would be little reason to put it in. however if you really felt like it you could mode one in.

 

[TacticalMonkey11b]

You lose

You lose

WOW it is an L22 one point for Mr. Ego Boner

And yes the L85 looks alot better then the L22

Law in game looks WAY BIGGER then the pics u recommended to me


I know theres are more then one

when i was writing it i forgot thats the spotting rifle on it is british design


There are alot of people that can agree with me that the dragunov would be an awsome sniper for the game

yes the rocket launcher and flamethrower are practical but not a .50 cal. Take the M107 for instance, My friend ( a Army sniper) says that it would rediculous to try and haul around the m107 during somthing like this. he carries the 30 pound rifle 10 pounds or more in ammo 5-6 pound scope and a 2 pound bipod. the Law 80 ways 22 pounds so it would be rediculous to carry around the m107 in this kind of situation

the flamethrowers have no recoil for the most part [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thaP_5d8ZpQ]YouTube - Flame Thrower[/URL]

how have you never heard the word clacker before

 

[Murphy]

"Bullpup" isn't an official weapon name, but neither is "9mm", "handcannon", etc. However it is an accurate description of the gun since there is no other bullpup weapon in the game and it's easy to say. For that same reason I think the AK should be just called AK, without the numbers. It's the only AK in the game and it makes sense for characters to just refer to it as the AK.

What the military would use in what situation is irrelevant since the military isn't who is supplying the team. The trader is, and she seems to just sell what she scavenges. For that reason it makes sense to have a Katana in the game as it's a relatively popular weapon for people to keep in their houses, if only for decoration.

I liked the old, bigger bullpup from the mod better too, but in both games it's too weak to represent an assault rifle. It feels more like an SMG compared to the other weapons and that's, I think, why they chose the shorter version for the retail game. To keep the same line of guns, as it's British, but use something that looks more like an SMG so the difference between look and effectiveness isn't so grossly off anymore.
Why they didn't implement the LA85 as the assault rifle of the game but the AK is a bit strange, but maybe they wanted the "bullpup" to remain the only "bullpup" and that's what made them chose another weapon.

If that is the case, then the AK probably makes sense as that is also a weapon that is relatively common among the civilian population for an assault rifle so it sort of makes sense for the trader to be able to scavenge some of them.

Not shooting you or your suggestions down. Just trying to explain why things are like they are.

Personally, I would like to see a flare gun. It also has an easy name, it's a common civilian tool and when used as a weapon it's quite hilarious.

 

[Krieg Jaeger]

Flamethrowers have no recoil at all in real life

I believe the veteran who helped the company who made CoD:World at war related a story of when a man fired his flamethrower without getting his footing first. He was knocked onto his back with the hose still spraying flames all over, dousing himself in the liquid fire, and dieing a embarrassing and excruciating death.

A flamethrower has immense recoil because you are basically holding on to a controlled explosion. It's a fire hose with napalm.

 

[Wolfdust]

Lets start of by stating the obvious. The bullpup is a weapon design style not a gun name what so ever.

So what? The gun is a bullpup. Thus the name fits, no? It's no different from calling the shotgun a "shotgun." It's stating what it is.

And now to the gun itself. The bullpup ( L85 Carbine) is the ugliest weapon i have ever seen in my entire life. PLEASE ADD A NORMAL L85 and im sure everybody can agree with me on that. and just for fun give us a Chicago typewriter =)

I wouldn't mind seeing an actual L85 (As we only have an L22 right now) but I disagree heartily with your notion that "we all can agree that it is ugly."

The L85 and the L22 are some of my favorite looking rifles in the world. They're a beautiful sort of ugly. It's a utilitarian beauty.

Now to the L.A.W.

WTF IS THAT. because i can guarantee that thats not what a LAW looks like by not use somthing that at least is the same size and look as the M72 law or even the SMAW seeing as that thats the british anti tank weapon there using

It looks fine to me. Who cares if it's not true to life? Maybe in KF's timeline they picked some other LAW design?

Sharpshooter...Crossbow. I havnt seen those two words together since the medieval ages. Give us a real sniper rifle
Suggestion= Dragunov, L96 Arctic Warfare and im sure some more people could come up with more rifles ( not any .50 cal because that would be retarded in this game)

While I would like an actual sniper rifle, a crossbow is certainly a sharpshooter's weapon. They are pretty powerful - crossbows could put holes in plate armor. It makes sense for use against monsters.

Also, stylin'.

And why not a .50 cal? I'd love to have one if I was staring down a FP.

Flamethrowers have no recoil at all in real life

Have you fired one before to establish this 'fact'?

They do, by the way. Flamethrowers shoot out a stream of burning liquid.

To insist they have no recoil is a bit silly. It's like saying a fire hose has no recoil.

Explosive suggestion= C4 plastic explosive with clacker

I could see it. Seems entirely situational though...

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I liked the old, bigger bullpup from the mod better too, but in both games it's too weak to represent an assault rifle. It feels more like an SMG compared to the other weapons and that's, I think, why they chose the shorter version for the retail game.

Eh?

I find the L22 to make an excellent weapon and an excellent representation of an assault rifle. It makes mincemeat of the various normal mobs (Sirens, bloats, clots, gorefasts, crawlers, stalkers) and only really has trouble with the Scrakes and FPs (and the Pat, naturally), which is to be expected as they're big and mean.