Goodbye MP40
- Thread starter Gudenrath
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Though off topic, I personally wouldn't mind if all the weapons had a little greater 'cone of fire' than they currently have. Lord knows I've squeezed off enough rounds in competition shoots that I knew were bullseyes, only to see that they barely cut the nine ring. Pressure, adrenaline and flinching are the real enemy.
DiD I read that post correctly?
You want a Cone of Fire.
What are you smoking there Floyd.The thing that seperates RO from the other crap shooters (True bullet ballistices).
The bullet goes where the barrel is aimed. I qualified for marksmen every year I was in the military. Been around firearms all my life.
I too would aim for the Bullseye but if the bullet would land outside the
eye, it was obviously my fault. If it hit the eye that to was my fault.
Spin Drift/Bullet Drop/Round Tumble(when effected range is passed),etc,,
This is the only cone of fire in real life,,~100-200 yrds+ depending on the rifle/smg,,,
Sure some of the firearms needs to be tweaked a little(mp40) etc,,
I also would welcome the choice of what upgrade to choose from.
Befor I entered the fray,,,
Just my .02 worth,,,
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I don't think its organic, MtnMan. Its got to be the flashbacks from the acid or mushrooms.....
As a fellow marksman, you would know that all weapons have "cone of fire" so to speak. Put a production gun in a vise on a bench in a vaccuum and it still won't shoot through the same hole everytime. I think even the RO weapons series have some degree of a 'cone of fire' built in to their physics code (I could be wrong). Granted, they are certainly not to the degree of the the old MoH or CoD games and much closer to actuality.
That's all I'm really saying.
To make up for the lack of environmental (wind, temp) and/or physical (barrel heat, dirt, ammo differences) and/or physiological (adrenaline, fatigue, stress) factors in the game, I (personally) wouldn't object if I didn't hit everything exactly where I shot it everytime I had the target in a good sight picture. I say that because I know (as I said in my previous post) that despite what we think we can and are doing, the result isn't always what we envisioned.
But that it just my paradigm and comes from age and my experience. One tends to mellow out and view things with a little broader perspective in one's old age. Or, perhaps its just the lingering affects of the lysergic acid diethylamide.....
As a fellow marksman, you would know that all weapons have "cone of fire" so to speak. Put a production gun in a vise on a bench in a vaccuum and it still won't shoot through the same hole everytime. I think even the RO weapons series have some degree of a 'cone of fire' built in to their physics code (I could be wrong). Granted, they are certainly not to the degree of the the old MoH or CoD games and much closer to actuality.
That's all I'm really saying.
To make up for the lack of environmental (wind, temp) and/or physical (barrel heat, dirt, ammo differences) and/or physiological (adrenaline, fatigue, stress) factors in the game, I (personally) wouldn't object if I didn't hit everything exactly where I shot it everytime I had the target in a good sight picture. I say that because I know (as I said in my previous post) that despite what we think we can and are doing, the result isn't always what we envisioned.
But that it just my paradigm and comes from age and my experience. One tends to mellow out and view things with a little broader perspective in one's old age. Or, perhaps its just the lingering affects of the lysergic acid diethylamide.....
How so?
The MP 40 II:"It first went into production in March 1942, though it did not appear on official listings until July 1943, as the MP 40 II, with the instrument number (Ger
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To make up for the lack of environmental (wind, temp) and/or physical (barrel heat, dirt, ammo differences) and/or physiological (adrenaline, fatigue, stress) factors in the game, I (personally) wouldn't object if I didn't hit everything exactly where I shot it everytime I had the target in a good sight picture. I say that because I know (as I said in my previous post) that despite what we think we can and are doing, the result isn't always what we envisioned.
But that it just my paradigm and comes from age and my experience. One tends to mellow out and view things with a little broader perspective in one's old age. Or, perhaps its just the lingering affects of the lysergic acid diethylamide.....
OK,Make sense to me in IRL with all the Environmental/Battle variables,
especially barrel heat.This will effect bullet ballistics the most.
But would be impossible to implement those varibles in a game,, and a
cone is no solution. A cone of fire of any type would defeat the idea of true ballisitics.
Yes I have clamped a rifle to sight it in prior to Hunting season,
no 2 bullets strike the same place,But usually a 1" drift/hit ~100 yrds.
Cheers,,
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pritty much all the semi/full auto guns need to be reblanced so they are much harder to get a kill from their max ranges. a submachine gun should wound more then kill at 100m+. even if thats not perfect "historical accuracy" that would be best for gameplay so every game doesnt have MW3 syndrome. doesnt help that the wound system is a complete joke though.
Yeah I find myself using the MP40II less and less now that I unlocked it. I wish there was a simple option to switch back to the regular MP40. I hate having to select between mags in the heat of battle and then try to remember which mag has more ammo as I advance forward. You also have to select each mag seperatley to change them. Its just a hassle. I like simple.
what the hell is an mp40II ??
for recoil, there are some tricks to counter it or use it to your advantadge
If you shoot in automatic, move the mouse slightly downwards while shooting
or what I do the most. I aim for the gut and shoot in bursts. The recoil slams the gun upwards, often resulting in a headshot from the second or third bullet. works pretty great for long distances, I get quite allot of smg kills at 70m or more. For big maps, I do go (semi-auto) rifle
However it does result in constant accusations of aimbotting and sometimes getting kicked by a 15 year old admin, wich im getting tired off.
for recoil, there are some tricks to counter it or use it to your advantadge
If you shoot in automatic, move the mouse slightly downwards while shooting
or what I do the most. I aim for the gut and shoot in bursts. The recoil slams the gun upwards, often resulting in a headshot from the second or third bullet. works pretty great for long distances, I get quite allot of smg kills at 70m or more. For big maps, I do go (semi-auto) rifle
However it does result in constant accusations of aimbotting and sometimes getting kicked by a 15 year old admin, wich im getting tired off.
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to be honest i have the II, and it doesnt really change your game play all that much, if at all. yea its ugly pugly, but once youve emptied the first of the two mags you only reload one mag at a time, just like the normal one. it doenst "really" give you the 50round mag. its alot like having 2 mags taped together rather than a larger sized mag.
so dont be too disheartened by it, mines level 31 by the way....
as for it being godlike, yea its accurate but vs a ppsh, the ppsh will more than likely get the killing hits in CQB. compare the RoF with the ppsh higher RoF lower accuratacy (retard proof gun, as it actualy was) mp40 RoF lower (than ppsh) accuratacy higher. they equal each other out, in terms of standard gameplay i cant see much differnce in HOS for either as they were in OST, though i agree its easier to a longer ranged hit now than it was in OST, but we also no longer have weapon sway.
so dont be too disheartened by it, mines level 31 by the way....
as for it being godlike, yea its accurate but vs a ppsh, the ppsh will more than likely get the killing hits in CQB. compare the RoF with the ppsh higher RoF lower accuratacy (retard proof gun, as it actualy was) mp40 RoF lower (than ppsh) accuratacy higher. they equal each other out, in terms of standard gameplay i cant see much differnce in HOS for either as they were in OST, though i agree its easier to a longer ranged hit now than it was in OST, but we also no longer have weapon sway.
that may very well be true, never said I was a good player
Just out of curiosity for what are u basing your fact that 1 hit does 50 damage?
that may very well be true, never said I was a good player
Just out of curiosity for what are u basing your fact that 1 hit does 50 damage?
btw shot someone in the arse 3-4 times with ppsh at 5 meters, walked onwards and he shoots and kills me after bandaging..
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I have the "upgraded" MP 40 unlocked since ages...dunno the intend of the OP and keep on using the bolt as main weapon.
ermm it looks almost the same than the normal one despite the dual mag, and those are practical. And as for unrealistic...we have russkis spawn with MG34 and such..meh
ermm it looks almost the same than the normal one despite the dual mag, and those are practical. And as for unrealistic...we have russkis spawn with MG34 and such..meh
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that may very well be true, never said I was a good player
Just out of curiosity for what are u basing your fact that 1 hit does 50 damage?
This.
untill he has some facts Ill stick to my opinion that mp40 does more damage than ppsh. Btw Im fairly certain that 1 hit in the stomach or chest with mp40 is a kill. ppsh , not so sure..
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