German Helmet Decals

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Ralfst3r

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Let people decide if they want the decals on or not. And once more we got the strong request for a player customization menu.
Would be awesome if you could pick and choose little things within the boundries of realism. Should make for a really diverse range of playermodels.
 
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Panama Jack

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I don't see why you need to stress "within the bounds of realism". I've never wanted anything more then slapping chicken wire on my helmet. CHICKEN WIRE!
 

The_Emperor

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Well, maybe we must wait for someone to import the UT3 Character Customzation Menu and some more skins or even model add-ups.
 

The_Emperor

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Back on the orders idea, generally I believe it would be awesome if you could show off your awarded orders on your player character. It really should be possible to get f.ex. the Infantry Assault badge or the Iron Cross modeled or at least as a bitmap.
 

Hans Ludwig

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A nice touch, but of all the things I think should be added to the game, this is really low on my priority list.

Above working, time synced clocks, but still not high. ;)

LOL It doesn't take but a few minutes to add the decals to the texture.

Hell, it took Codemasters two days to replace the texture for the Blackhawk to the U.S. Navy gray paint scheme after the OFP community called them out.

Either way, where are the German decals? With all of the lengths the game is going towards to be realistic, why is this omitted? I suggest adding them to keep the most historical accuracy possible.

Most game developers don't add the Swastikas, and now the Sickle and Hammer, because most of Europe has laws against images. They don't have the freedoms we in the US take for granted. While I don't agree with Tripwire doing this, they can take the Gaijin's response to the community asking for Swastikas on the 109 in their game titled Wings of Prey: Special Download.
 
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Brendan

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At Stalingrad, single decal helmets (ie, eagle clutching swastika) would be most common. One would expect to have seen the full colors also. All sort of stuff happened, and randomization would be cool. I have a photograph from mid-1944 that shows a double decal helmet (eagle clutching swastika, national colors)
 

doomis

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If the freedom to have symbols like the swastika or whatever is so important for you then what can I say... Sure its stupid to ban them but its not like denying your rights as a human being either. But starting a discussion about which country has more freedom is just as stupid and pathetic too, so no point continuing it.
 

Oldih

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Oh, really? So you are denying Poland now has laws on the books that ban the Swastika and other Nazi symbols including, and this just happened recently, the Sickle and Hammer.

As much as this is opening a huge can of worms and probably causing a lock for this thread, that is up for the government or nation itself to decide what is ultimately 'good' thing to do for the sake of argument. It doesn't really matter what their standing is politically or the status of their internal affairs, considering there's no major outcry about it in Poland for example (other than if you're politically a national socialist or something like that) what's the problem, other than maybe in case of authentic scenario (regardless if it's re-enacting, video game or so) they have to strip something to keep it reasonable?

Even though that leads to another funny case that even with correct insignia and flags how many 'sane' persons are willing to do correct salutes of later periods of war? ;)

I'll leave it at that, PM function is quite handy in case if you really want to go further with this.
 

Miro!

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What could be nice (in an upgrade/rookie to veteran status etc) :
historic decorations due to time you are in war, heroic actions, objectives in game that match the real objectives why these decorations were given to these soldiers during ww2. Just an example here :



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These decorations/level of decorations wont give any perks to advantage someone to one and another. Only visual aspect is touched.
 

Zetsumei

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Oh, really? So you are denying Poland now has laws on the books that ban the Swastika and other Nazi symbols including, and this just happened recently, the Sickle and Hammer.

You forget that the symbol is banned when utilized for non historical reasons. As it is in many other European countries. History books, schoolbooks and museums still showcase those symbols. But the symbol cannot be used for clubs, restaurants or generally non educational purposes.

The usage of such symbols in film is often allowed for educational purposes, but some countries do not feel that games can fall in that same category. Those symbols are in direct connection to the regime, and European governments do not want those symbols to become a symbol you'll see on toys.

Look at the people wearing Fidel Castro t-shirts without actually knowing who he is or what he did. Europe was directly affected by the second world war because the war took place on its soil. Above all that what happened must not be forgotten over time. And for that its important out of respect of those who suffered during the war, that the symbols of a regime that caused loads of suffering won't be turned into a toy.

This is the reason as well why there are so many American SS realism units for games compared to European ones. Americans won't be happy if people would create a Klu Klux Klan for a game either, and for a lot of European people SS units feels similar but actually worse.
 
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