General Firearm Discussion

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Nicholas

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Yeah I meant 7.62x39 sorry.

Would you say the 5.45 is similar to the 5.56 in ballistics? Also which on is more mass produced?
 

Flogger23m

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Good luck finding one in x54.


Here you go:

ak54rwall.jpg


It is just a Romanian PSL cut down with normal AK furniture. A PSL is the rifle on the top (not to be confused with the SVD below it, completely different rifle):

donfromaktiger.jpg


Personally if I where to get another AK, it would be in 5.45x39. If not, maybe 5.56 or another 7.62x39.
 

Peter.Steele

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Here you go:
Spoiler!

It is just a Romanian PSL cut down with normal AK furniture. A PSL is the rifle on the top (not to be confused with the SVD below it, completely different rifle):


Yeah, I know what a PSL is. It's similar to an AK, but it isn't an AK. It's a PSL.

... which reminds me, there's a store near here that had one a bit ago, wonder if they still do ...


Anyway, next question: I know that I'd prefer a nice Rem 870 over a cheapo Mossy 500 ... but now I've got some interesting choices:

1. Big 5 special Mossy 500 combo (18" and 28" barrels) - $379
2. Big 5 special Benelli Nova (not Supernova, not tactical) - $379
3. Used Rem 1100 semi auto - $400-500

I'm looking primarily for a cheapish shotgun. I might or might not hunt with it, it'll probably be mostly for 3-gun and "oh crap, I heard something bump in the night."

Input?
 

Nicholas

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Yeah, I know what a PSL is. It's similar to an AK, but it isn't an AK. It's a PSL.

... which reminds me, there's a store near here that had one a bit ago, wonder if they still do ...


Anyway, next question: I know that I'd prefer a nice Rem 870 over a cheapo Mossy 500 ... but now I've got some interesting choices:

1. Big 5 special Mossy 500 combo (18" and 28" barrels) - $379
2. Big 5 special Benelli Nova (not Supernova, not tactical) - $379
3. Used Rem 1100 semi auto - $400-500

I'm looking primarily for a cheapish shotgun. I might or might not hunt with it, it'll probably be mostly for 3-gun and "oh crap, I heard something bump in the night."

Input?

The first one sounds good, I'd rather have one shotgun with several barrels than multiple shotguns.

Also I have another question myself, does Mauser still make rifles? If so are they affordable or super expensive collector pieces?
 

Floyd

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Yeah, I know what a PSL is. It's similar to an AK, but it isn't an AK. It's a PSL.

... which reminds me, there's a store near here that had one a bit ago, wonder if they still do ...


Anyway, next question: I know that I'd prefer a nice Rem 870 over a cheapo Mossy 500 ... but now I've got some interesting choices:

1. Big 5 special Mossy 500 combo (18" and 28" barrels) - $379
2. Big 5 special Benelli Nova (not Supernova, not tactical) - $379
3. Used Rem 1100 semi auto - $400-500

I'm looking primarily for a cheapish shotgun. I might or might not hunt with it, it'll probably be mostly for 3-gun and "oh crap, I heard something bump in the night."

Input?
My wife shot a youth model 20ga semi-auto Rem 1100 back when we were doing the sporting clays circuit. Hers was pretty finnicky. Toward the end of a day of shooting it tended to hang shells on eject. Especially with reloads (even with AA shells). Once cleaned and oiled there was no problem. I will have to say though, that it had virtually no recoil (probably why it hung so much), and was/is fun to shoot.

Does the 500 combo come with screw in chokes? (if that matters to you).

Don't know anything about the Benelli Nova. A lower end of the Benelli line? $379

I hate pump guns. I failed with them as a kid...lol. Haven't touched another. Just give me an over and under (or an old fashioned side by side)....:p
 
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Peter.Steele

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My wife shot a youth model 20ga semi-auto Rem 1100 back when we were doing the sporting clays circuit. Hers was pretty finnicky. Toward the end of a day of shooting it tended to hang shells on eject. Especially with reloads (even with AA shells). Once cleaned and oiled there was no problem. I will have to say though, that it had virtually no recoil (probably why it hung so much), and was/is fun to shoot.

Does the 500 combo come with screw in chokes? (if that matters to you).

Don't know anything about the Benelli Nova. A lower end of the Benelli line? $379

I hate pump guns. I failed with them as a kid...lol. Haven't touched another. Just give me an over and under (or an old fashioned side by side)....:p



Pretty sure the Mossy doesn't come with chokes. I'm not sure I really care, though ... the 28" barrel will see only rare service anyway.

The Nova, yeah, it's a bottom-end piece. Pretty ugly, too, but I don't pick 'em for pretty.

I'm not a fan of pump guns myself. I'd just as soon have semi - that's one thing less to think about when milliseconds are on the line, like in competition.
 

<animal>INSTINCT

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No love for the AN-94?:(

an94-1.jpg


This thing is my apocalypse weapon of choice. When using the 2-shot burst, this thing has virtually no recoil because the barrel is mounted on a spring which absorbs the force of the recoil generated by the two shots (which is still minimal due to the lightweight 5.45mm round it uses).
 

Nicholas

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No love for the AN-94?:(

an94-1.jpg


This thing is my apocalypse weapon of choice. When using the 2-shot burst, this thing has virtually no recoil because the barrel is mounted on a spring which absorbs the force of the recoil generated by the two shots (which is still minimal due to the lightweight 5.45mm round it uses).

Can you get a civilian legal version of that?
 

mamoo

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Are normal people actually allowed to own a semi auto rifle there?

The only semi-automatic weapons you're allowed in the UK AFAIK is a shotgun, but it has to only hold two rounds max. But Gibby did say he ired it at a range, I believe firing ranges are allowed to use automatic and semi-automatic weapons assuming they have the correct licences.

this thing has virtually no recoil because the barrel is mounted on a spring which absorbs the force of the recoil generated by the two shots

I thought it had recoil but it was designed so you didn't feel it until both shots had been fired.
 
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<animal>INSTINCT

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I thought it had recoil but it was designed so you didn't feel it until both shots had been fired.
Yes, that is true. I think the recoil comes from the barrel springing back to its original position after the rounds are fired. But from a tactical standpoint, recoil after the rounds are fired is, in essence, no recoil at all because you've already fired your two rounds before the gun moves at all.
 

Major Liability

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No love for the AN-94?:(

an94-1.jpg


This thing is my apocalypse weapon of choice. When using the 2-shot burst, this thing has virtually no recoil because the barrel is mounted on a spring which absorbs the force of the recoil generated by the two shots (which is still minimal due to the lightweight 5.45mm round it uses).

Everyone forgets the G11 can fire 3 rounds before you feel the recoil when they're talking about the AN-94.

aek-971_rifle-5866.jpg


I'd rather take an AEK or AK-107/8. They have the "balanced automatic recoil system" which basically just means there's a weight that is pushed forward by the gas at the same time the bolt travels backwards, so it nullifies most of the felt recoil.

YouTube - AN-94"Abakan"+ AEK 971

These modern Russian military rifles (especially the 9x39mm ones) are awesome, but Americans will probably never get a chance to shoot them.
 
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