[Movie] Game of Thrones

[Peter.Steele]

Spoiler!

ugh, well at least it's worth the read, but sadly at the moment I'd rather hear more Sansa, Arya, Cersei, and the usual Stark and Lannister bunches.

Spoiler!

The Targaryen heir is, I would guess, the "Golden Mercenaries" Leader mentioned earlier. Because, for one thing, they are mentioned repeatedly in the same memo that metions Dany, and usually repitition combined with feeding in details and facts means that it will come back. For another, there's the whole thing about how the mercenaries are made of exiles. And lastly, they have turned away from bussiness and headed in an odd direction, which screams "re-invasion" to me. The only way the guy could be more direct, though, would be A. Rhaegar's child, or B. Dany's older bro.

also, I'm a little dissapointed by the whole 3-eyed-crow letdown....it had a rather mysterious buildup. Of course, I think the more important thing might be whoever "cold hand" is. Now, he's either a very clever and tricky Other trying to use Bran as a tool to escape the confinement of the North. Or he could be a rogue zombie. Or another faction in the North could use zombies. Or it could be a very chilly version of those little green midgets mentioned earlier, the Children o' somethin or rather. Whatever the case, it seems enlightening.

However, Davos' survival makes me very happy; the onion knight was a good character, I didn't want him gone (please let it be Dany's skeleton there).

Don't tell me this one thing, which will probably be half the bloody book anyways though: If Dany actually realizes "hey, I'm getting sidetracked and horribly bogged down, maybe I should actually get on with the bloody invasion before I do something incredibly stupid and inevitably lose either my Dragons, Spartans, or both". As I said, the title tells me that she's probably going to make up her mind and get on with it.

Spoiler!

Coldhands is still a mystery. The implication, based on his garb, is that he was at one time a brother of the Night's Watch. He is now very definitely dead, though, and his form is certainly identical to the blue-eyed black-handed freakshows. He can't pass through the gates in the Wall, can't pass through another barrier that comes up later. Basically when asked about it, all he tells Bran is "Yes, I'm a monster, but I'm your monster." Nothing more happens re: Coldhands. The three-eyed crow is interesting, but nothing really happens. We do get a quick glimpse of the Children of the Forest, though.

Dany's brother went CLANG! in Vaes Dothrak, so it's not him. Interesting idea about the mercenaries, though - the Golden Company does play a big part.

 

[timur]

Spoiler!

Coldhands is still a mystery. The implication, based on his garb, is that he was at one time a brother of the Night's Watch. He is now very definitely dead, though, and his form is certainly identical to the blue-eyed black-handed freakshows. He can't pass through the gates in the Wall, can't pass through another barrier that comes up later. Basically when asked about it, all he tells Bran is "Yes, I'm a monster, but I'm your monster." Nothing more happens re: Coldhands. The three-eyed crow is interesting, but nothing really happens. We do get a quick glimpse of the Children of the Forest, though.

Dany's brother went CLANG! in Vaes Dothrak, so it's not him. Interesting idea about the mercenaries, though - the Golden Company does play a big part.

Spoiler!

hmmm....very interesting implications. So some sort of good/nuetral zombie previously Black Watch. That could mean the Children use similar magic/whatever as the Others, or it could mean that they have learned to "hijack" what the Others do. I mean, their use of Dragonglass tells me that they have a long history of fighting these things, and have sort of "grown around them". So why couldn't they have developed ways to sort of "liberate" zombified people, or at least take control of them. Or he could still be under Other control, and in fact be evil. Or, most likely, its a complex situation and none of the above which I can't really guess out.

Also, I know of the good old Viserys (or whatever his name is) who now is the Targaryen's golden child (lol, its punny), but I was thinking along the lines of maybe some other brother, or a cousin or the like. Most likely, though, it would be a child of Rhaegar, though.

Anyways, I hope those who've only watched the show haven't read these spoilers; while most of them will likely not make any sense until MUCH later, those that are remembered are sure to ruin the surprise of it ( zombie Catelyn, for example? ).

Anyways, as much as Dancing with Dragons seems rather dull compared to Feast of Crows, it still looks quite interesting

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

Spoiler!

Not having finished ADwD, but nearing the end, I can't agree that nothing big happened in the book.
The only "problem" I see is that it is very Meereen centric, and most of the things happen around there while not yet concerning Westeros.

Just on top of my mind, the list of important things happening:

Spoiler!

A dragon eats a child, shattering the trust Dany has in them and even makes herself afraid of them.

Dany marries Hizdhar, which is pretty big for Meereen

Dany flies away with Rhaegor to some to me not yet known ends, which might had her killed (which I doubt, as GRRM was rather direct about deaths, even though sometimes the victims did in fact survive by some means)

Jon's amassing an army of wildlings to guard the wall

Quentin Tyrell is plotting in Meereen to steal a dragon. Now I don't know if he succeeds in this book, but if he does, that's pretty big news.

Exiled Jon Connington invades his old Lands, with Pronce Aegon Targaryen in tow, which should shake up the things in Westeros quite a bit.

 

[Peter.Steele]

Spoiler!

Not having finished ADwD, but nearing the end, I can't agree that nothing big happened in the book.
The only "problem" I see is that it is very Meereen centric, and most of the things happen around there while not yet concerning Westeros.

Just on top of my mind, the list of important things happening:

Spoiler!

A dragon eats a child, shattering the trust Dany has in them and even makes herself afraid of them.

Dany marries Hizdhar, which is pretty big for Meereen

Dany flies away with Rhaegor to some to me not yet known ends, which might had her killed (which I doubt, as GRRM was rather direct about deaths, even though sometimes the victims did in fact survive by some means)

Jon's amassing an army of wildlings to guard the wall

Quentin Tyrell is plotting in Meereen to steal a dragon. Now I don't know if he succeeds in this book, but if he does, that's pretty big news.

Exiled Jon Connington invades his old Lands, with Pronce Aegon Targaryen in tow, which should shake up the things in Westeros quite a bit.

Spoiler!

Thing is, though, who really gives a rat's back end about Meereen? It's boring there, and nothing that Dany can do there has any relevance to Westeros, or anything that needs to happen there. The only thing that could possibly be considered relevant is that she's demonstrating her complete unsuitability to rule anything. At all.

Hizdahr is a dead end. Quentin is a dead end. Flying off with the dragon might as well be a dead end, within the scope of this book.

A dragon ate a child? That's just another sign of her incompetance. Dragons are dangerous creatures, and she hasn't made any real attempt at reining them in or training them. (Of course, this makes it possible that the Ironborn will be relevant again soon - remember the horn that Euron brought to the kingsmoot?) Dany's been too busy focussing on the problems of a bunch of people that, to be frank, don't mean a damn thing in the grand scheme of things.

"Really big for Meereen" = "completely irrelevant to Westeros."

The wildlings settling south doesn't really move the story forward at all. That's something that was pretty clearly set to happen two books ago. It's a thousand pages of setup for the one big thing that happens to Jon in this book.

I do not, however, want anyone to get the idea that I'm not still eagerly awaiting the next book ... I'm a sucker like that!

 

[Switchblade]

Watched the whole first series last week, I am hooked!

Just ordered the first 4 books and can't wait for the second season, especially now I heard that Carice van Houten will have a big role in it.

 

[Pagan]

Carice mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[timur]

especially now I heard that Carice van Houten will have a big role in it.

For the Night is Dark and Filled with Terrors

 

[LightsabeR]

A little bump and a little teaser:

Game of Thrones: Season 2 In Production - YouTube

April can't come soon enough.

 

[timur]

so how far have you gotten, Switchblade? Have you finished AFFC? Acquired ADWD? How did you like them? Sorry to be intrusive, I'm just curious.

 

[Lt_Kettch]

Season 2 is coming!

Game Of Thrones Season 2: "Shadow" Tease - YouTube

 

[RedFlagWaver]

God damn it...I want to see a clean shot of Stannis!

ALL HAIL KING STANNIS!

 

[Rak]

Oh god please come sooner. I want to start reading the books, but first I need to finish the series first.

 

[Xendance]

Season 2 is coming!

Game Of Thrones Season 2: "Shadow" Tease - YouTube

Spring is coming!

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

Oh god please come sooner. I want to start reading the books, but first I need to finish the series first.

Why? I think the other way round is better, especially since the series has a somewhat condensed story.

 

[smokeythebear]

Why? I think the other way round is better, especially since the series has a somewhat condensed story.

I somewhat agree. I watched the first series before starting the books so I was glad to have faces and voices behind the names as I read. Other then Joffrey & Dany I think the cast was perfectly chosen.

The writing though is not all that great either. At least in some parts it just seems very sterile and uninteresting. As well the author isn't very subtle in how he reminds us of whats happened beforehand through his characters thoughts. It makes up for itself when events actually unfold though which is why I keep reading.

It's kind of funny how the show took away some important characters but added some new ones who all happen to be sexy ladies who get naked often

Starting the 4th book now, excited to see which new characters it will be following.

 

[Fu. Svedberg]

Oh god please come sooner. I want to start reading the books, but first I need to finish the series first.

Since the book series isn't finished yet and currently consists of 5 finished books and 2 more planned ones. You'll have to wait about 10 years before you can start reading the books
You also have to take into consideration that originally the books where planned as a trilogy which has grown to 7 planned books which means there is a risk it will grow further. My bet is that he will never finish all the books before he dies.
There also is a prequel that currently consist of 3 books that takes place 90 years prior Song of Ice and Fire

What we have here is a new Robert Jordan, with the exception that Song of Ice and Fire doesn't suck.

Personally I've now finished all five books that are available and sadly I have a feeling that I'll have a hard time continue watching the series for a couple of different reasons. One of the main reasons is that the book is always better than a movie/series with more details and deeper backstory but also because for some reason I think that the sex is too graphic in the series, much more than in the books.
I can't stop to think that they throw in nudity and sex just to lure in a horny male teenage audience (strange lesbosex episode in the middle of the first season comes to mind (which wasn't even in the book)). Now don't get me wrong I have no problem with detailed sex scenes or full frontal nudity in movies and series but in Game of Thrones a lot of it just felt out of place and a measure to just get higher viewer ratings. On the other hand I'll be pissed off if they skip some of the reviling outfits that some of the characters wear later in the series

With this long rant I have to say that I'll still probably watch the series when it starts to air since it is really well produced and probably the TV-show that currently has the highest production value.

 

[Nezzer]

I think that the sex is too graphic in the series, much more than in the books.

Maybe not in Game of Thrones, but in Clash of Kings and especially in Storm of Swords, some sex scenes in the book would require porn actors for the series if they are to be depicted as shown in the book.

Spoiler!

Tyrion and Jon Snow, you naughty, naughty boys . And what about Sansa? Would they show her naked in the series, since the actress is also underage IIRC?

 

[Nezzer]

BTW, this trailer just aired a few minutes ago:
Game Of Thrones Season 2: "Power And Grace" Trailer - YouTube

 

[Nezzer]

Now Renly really looks like a younger Robert. Just dunno why Theon barely appeared on the trailer.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

Maybe not in Game of Thrones, but in Clash of Kings and especially in Storm of Swords, some sex scenes in the book would require porn actors for the series if they are to be depicted as shown in the book.

ahem...