[Movie] Game of Thrones

[LightsabeR]

So yeah... damn... what a crazy episode.

 

[NoxNoctum]

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I literally feel as if someone just punched me in the stomach. I'd seen a few people mention the "red wedding" beforehand, so I thought it had spoiled it for me, but I assumed it was Joffrey's wedding this was referring to, so I totally did not see this one coming. Brutal. Way worse than Ned's death IMO. What happens to Edmure though? Was he killed too?

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

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Yeah, the red wedding. Even though I've read the books three times, it still gets me, and the more the series approached it, the more reluctant I was to watch. But i thought they leave that for the season finale.

 

[REZ]

HOLY SH IT.

What did I just watch.. This is a dream sequence, right? Next episode Rob wakes up all sweaty and gasping for air and everyone is okay.. right? RIGHT!?

 

[The Masta]

Spoiler!

 

[Shadrach]

It's truly Shakespearean...

 

[NoxNoctum]

Ya it is.

BTW can a book reader explain the Daenerys part to me please? I don't get it, they go in through the backdoor or whatever, get surrounded, kill everybody, then an even bigger group of bad guys surround them, then the show cuts to something else and next thing you know they're back at camp and have taken the city?? What did I miss?

 

[LightsabeR]

Ya it is.

BTW can a book reader explain the Daenerys part to me please? I don't get it, they go in through the backdoor or whatever, get surrounded, kill everybody, then an even bigger group of bad guys surround them, then the show cuts to something else and next thing you know they're back at camp and have taken the city?? What did I miss?

The slave guards decided to join them instead of fight them, I guess.

Also..

Spoiler!

 

[SheepDip]

I'd really like a bad person to get their comeuppance in Game of Thrones...preferably soon.

 

[LightsabeR]

I'd really like a bad person to get their comeuppance in Game of Thrones...preferably soon.

Yeah, I agree, they should definitely kill off Hodor soon.

 

[SiC-Disaster]

Funny reaction video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=78juOpTM3tE#!

I read the books so I knew this was coming but it still made my toes curl up and feeling shocked lol.

 

[NoxNoctum]

Ya I felt sick after watching it.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

BTW, I really liked how the series drove home the significance of the song "the Raynes of Castamere. I found it quite bonechilling when the song was played at the red wedding.

And to spoil a little:

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Edmure Tully lives, kept as a hostage, to gain the Lannisters leverage over Riverrun. But, at least as far as the books go, he's more of a plot point than a protagonist.

And to ease off the shock of the red wedding: some of the "bad guys" do get in harms way by the end of book 3/season 4.

 

[SheepDip]

All that seems to happen so far in the show is that you become attached to the good characters, and they get killed off and/or the bad guys win.
At the end of series 1, Ned Stark got executed, at the end of series 2 Stannis' fleet is destroyed, and at the end of series 3 Rob Stark et al get culled.

So basically - aside from Daenerys Targaryen (currently doing a Paul Atreides sort of thing) somewhere else and a few interesting minor characters/story arcs I'm not really enjoying it as much as I was.

 

[Shadrach]

I am reminded of these quotes from the brilliant "Rosenkrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" (Tom Stoppard)

Generally speaking, things have gone about as far as they can possibly go when things have got about as bad as they reasonably get.

We're tragedians, you see. We follow directions-there is no choice involved. The bad end unhappily, the good unluckily. That is what tragedy means.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

I actually think that the "anyone can die" is actually the appeal. Noone has plot-armor in the series.
Also, I wouldn't go so far as counting Stannis amongst the good guys.

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And while I do think that Daenerys Targaeryen is the actual "hero" of the series, I think that especially Arya's story is just about to get very interesting, as of the season ending, and so is Bran's, as of book number 5.

 

[SiC-Disaster]

My friend still hasn't seen the latest two episodes, but this is pretty much going to sum it up perfectly

 

[SheepDip]

I actually think that the "anyone can die" is actually the appeal. Noone has plot-armor in the series.
Also, I wouldn't go so far as counting Stannis amongst the good guys.

I kind of agree, because plot armour is awful. But the good characters seem to have developed some anti-plot armour.

It's not really rewarding in any way to see the characters the story aligns with good always getting killed or failing. The fact that none of the bad characters (of which there are many) are always quite plainly in the ascendancy is beggining to grind.

I wouldn't quite call Stannis good either, though he is certainly a damn side better than Geoffrey.

 

[Lt_Kettch]

Yeah, rewatching the 2nd season with a couple of friends who haven't seen it yet, and they still think Theon is one of the good guys ...

So does anyone want to explain the Jon Snow scene?

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It looked like he killed all of the wildlings except for Ygritte (obviously) and Redbeard dude. Why did he run, instead of being reunited with his brothers?

 

[LightsabeR]

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It looked like he killed all of the wildlings except for Ygritte (obviously) and Redbeard dude. Why did he run, instead of being reunited with his brothers?

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He didn't know that his brothers were hiding in that tower. As for why he ran away, I guess he didn't want to fight Tormund, which is understandable, or risk putting Ygritte in more danger.