For the sake of everyone.

[Jamini]

I agree the default filter should be set to normal, but you will have the rare player that can handle himself on higher difficulties. The player will know if they can do this or not. I went to hard back when I got the game at lvl 2, and did fine. Was bored by 3, and went to the old sui and had no issues.

Honestly, most players overestimate their ability. Hell, even good players with high level perks overestimate their ability. The sheer number of people who KEEP trying higher difficulties even when they can't do a damn thing and EVERY experienced player in the game is telling them that they should be trying something easier is truly staggering.

Changing the default search filter and adding a warning for joining games above the average for your highest perk level would result in much better retention in this game, which results in more players referring KF to their friends, more sales, and more money for additional content. I think that is well worth a few days it would take to add them.

 

[Merin Redplate]

I support this.
Besides, I'm sure it will only require TWI to change a single line of code, so it shouldn't be too big of a deal.

 

[Arkhell]

Took the time to drill 1 weekender to:

select a perk (SS since it's easyer)
buy perk weapon (overrated how important this is... commando running with shotty in wave 9 hurts my feelings)
Buy armor... pretty hard too
save up cash for bigger weapons in alter rounds.
not picking up peoples weapons or atleast giving them back ones the round is done.

didn't bother with the 99 other people though, that was mentally challaging enough.

twas hard to level fire bug though... mac10 single shot on farm is pretty fun except for when everyone just kills all the zeds you put on fire and then say: but you got so many kills!... dont care bout kills i want fire dmg!


had a hard time joining servers cause it wouldn't let me join or didn't refresh at all and everytime i hit a hard/suicidal/HoE server via steam server browser... (worked better for some reason) i just disconnected, no sence playing 1 or 2 rounds and then switching map

 

[Hemi]

Guys, dont waste your time trying to suggest someting to Tripwire team. They dont give a chicken ***t for you. The only thing they care about is new SALES. Think - if they update someting in the game, it will be someting obvious, to freshen up the game, to squeeze all from this old (but with great potential to be best) game, only to attract new customers. They dont need to fix bugs to do this. Why you think they make christmas and haloween specials, but NEVER fix the (many) bugs, which only a player, which already buyed the game, and played it for some time, can spot? There are super-annoying bugs, which they are perfectly aware of, and can fix them in a matter of days, but they don't do it, and what did this say for how(if) they care about their customers(guys, already buyed the game)??
You think they will pay attention to you, when there are Great bugs present from YEARS, like the impossibility of hiting the target with shotguns when at point-blank range(the shotguns, which kind of weapons are supposed to be shooted at minimum possible range, point-blank in best situation, actually, in this game they CANT hit the enemy when point-blank close to him, the shells are just going trough it), and the full mess, which is the hardest difficulty(HoE), because of the non-ballanced bersekrer perk, which is MUCH more stronger than other perks, and as result you can't NEVER EVER see a HellOnEarth game with players, with different perks from bersker, especially after the mid-waves. Playing with the main perks, such as commando/support on HoE is absolutely pointless and impossible, even for the "hardcorest" players. You just choose Berserker, choose some place on the map, far away from your team(!), and start salying, even the noobs wont face a problem this way.
So, you are thinking somebody will mind your writings here? No, only the other misled members..
IF there are no money in your suggestion, TWI won't do a ***t for you.
If you don't believe me, just look up the bug threads, and notice for how many years, the players are BEGGING tripwire to fix those HUGE bugs, which make the game unplayable/ much less enjoyable for the regular players.
They know, that with one little bug-fixing patch the game can be redone, so the players will get in ecstasy from pleasure, but they just wont get a profit from this. They are small studio, and they think only for the money- potential customers.
And now, for telling the truth, threatening their security, just notice how quickly they can act when they want, kicking me out of here and removing, then burning to ashes this message, revealing the truth.

If TWI couldnt give a fck then they would have abandoned the game long ago...instead they fed us with updates and new stuff the entire time. Even modding their own game!

Lets not forget how much this game costs. Every COD player in the world prob wishes he had this much free content for that price. TWI are still treating killing floor as an A+ title, which you absolutely will not see with any other franchise on the current market. They deserve our respect.

 

[HaTeMe]

 

[tinmann840]

Noobs can really screw up a hard game also. Especially when they join late in the game say round 6 or 7 with no weapons or cash then get killed early by chasing the creatures. If you find a good vantage point and interlock your fire you can hold off just about anything. It is rare to get a good team on HOE that knows their class's strength and will do their part to win the game.

 

[shaqism]

Make the firebug do damage, then hell on earth would be playable with low levels

 

[Splatpope]

Easy fix : Install an IQ test and make everyone under 80 automatically get their game uninstalled.

Would solve 80% of this game's problems.

 

[swenor27]

I can't handle it

I can't handle it

I can't handle newcomers. I quit playing KF for some time. HARD games with new ppl are way harder, than HoE games with my team. We aren't really good at HoE - most maps tooks us 1/2 tries, few took 3 tries, and HH and IceCave (ffs hardest map so far on KF) took us 7 tries each. The thing is newcomers don't listen, they just do some random crazy ****, they are as coordinated and reliable as headless chickens running and spurting blood (LOL). They waste ammo, they waste money, they rage Bigs, heh, it is funny to see them make all hell break loose, but when I want to play some relaxing HARD game, i can't. I don't even go higher - what is the point of playing sui/hoe game with half of team having perks below 3 and not knowing the game? - There is no point.
I say, make restrictions - all up to lvl 4 can join up to hard, lvl5 and lvl6 can join sui and hoe. This should prevent those crazy ppl doing even more crazy and ridiculous stuff from joining tougher games.

 

[Gartley]

Easy fix : Install an IQ test and make everyone under 80 automatically get their game uninstalled.

Would solve 80% of this game's problems.

While I like your thinking you'd more likely loose 80% of the player base.

 

[Janek566]

WOW how about keeping the bull**** to minimum and instead giving admins power to kick any level they want. Why doesnt TWI concentrate on gameplay and let admins administrate their servers?

 

[Splatpope]

While I like your thinking you'd more likely loose 80% of the player base.

Eaxctly my point.

Also, HH hard on HOE ? I only got the HoE achievement for it

 

[Blockbot]

srry for playing as level 0. I will now play level 6 with offperked weapons

 

[starxpilot]

WOW how about keeping the bull**** to minimum and instead giving admins power to kick any level they want. Why doesnt TWI concentrate on gameplay and let admins administrate their servers?

How about this, I refuse to P/W my server, allowing noobs and server-clearing fails to ruin HoE/Suicidal games because some Level 0 Zerker with an Xbow can't kill 10 of them Z.E.D.s? I'm not about to put my server to be pure HoE or pure Pub. I love a mixture from both.

Its in negative light but think of TF2 and the option to prevent F2Ps from joining games, its an easy switch that Server Admins can use. I would LOVE to see such a switch to prevent perks below a certain level from joining when we're Hell on Earth.

I'm not about to start kicking people and potentially ruining a new player to KF's opinion simply because he's a Newb. I'd rather it prevent him from joining and finding a Normal or Hard Server where he can get a challenge that isn't too easy, nor too difficult. :3

 

[Clowndoe]

If you did this on Long, you should know you don't have to beat Ice Cave on Long to get the achievement. You can get it on Short, legitimately as well (the technical wording of the achievement is "Beat Ice Cave", not "Win a Long Game on Ice Cave").

Just FYI for those who want the Ice Cave map achievements.

Yeah but short games are usually harder because by wave 4 you need to have an AA12 (or whatever FP killing weapon) because you're already fighting FP's, no?

 

[Wonka]

Great game

Great game

Guys, I've read many posts since buying and playing kf after stumbling on the game when browsing the steam store, i Thought that's looks a good shooter, has zombies, wot more do I need.

Twas Not until I payed and played and frequently died did I realise what a deep and tactical game this is!

And now after many hours of practice (both good and bad games) I'm enjoying this more than ANY game I've played in my 20+ years of gaming!!!!!!

And the thing that made me enjoy this game the most is the players themselves,, guys like you, the experienced players who took the time to teach a doomer that not all shooters are just point click fire! Either via the forums or in game.

This game has the best community I've seen and encouraging newbies to the game is can be nothing but goodness for the longevity of it. yes you'll get the eedjits who don't wish to learn but also there's a whole raft of players who are up for a new challenge but just need some guideance.

Thanks guys
Wonks

 

[Splatpope]

Yeah but short games are usually harder because by wave 4 you need to have an AA12 (or whatever FP killing weapon) because you're already fighting FP's, no?

AA12 ? A FP killing weapon ?


lolololo

 

[Janek566]

AA12 ? A FP killing weapon ?


lolololo

you'd be surprised mate.

 

[͡ °๏Rɐnɐ-Sɐmɐ๏͡°]

i REEEEALLY wanted to make this my sig, but liked my current one too much.

HERP DERP, I CAN TAKE DOOL NINE MILIMEETRZ N' COD THEM TO DEATH. no seriously, i cant count the number of noobs that give me a similar response to it being "cool" even after i tell them multiple times they will die using those if they arent badasses with them (like my brother) no, they run out and get fragged in the wave they whip them out in. then they blame me for not protecting them after i healed them a million times when i am at 30-something health. the ones that take the LAR or perked weapon are the ones i continue further instruction and if they are decent people add to my friends list.

STEAM TRAINING GROUP: Crusaders of the malformed
join it if you want to instruct or want to get better at it.

 

[Splatpope]

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