Feedback from the Trading Floor
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man, it's in the official announcement, read it. i'm not going to go hunt that up for you but it says something to the effect of, in the future we plan to sell guns in the crates with "new gameplay elements".
now what exactly do you think is meant by "new gameplay elements" because they don't mention selling new monsters, new game modes or new maps in those crates, so what could the new gameplay elements be?
do you believe they will sell guns that make the game more difficult? because that's how they did it in the past, right? yea, everybody would be happy with guns that make the game harder. am i right?
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I remember reading that and it does not reinforce your point, not one bit. Different gameplay elements could be like a Husk Fireball gun as an alternative T3 to the flamethrower for example: Long range, hard hitting, but terrible at crowd control and has expensive/easily used up ammo. That's a different gameplay element which would make the FB like a sharpshooter.
Or how about a commando battle rifle which is burst fire only and takes an age to reload but hits like a truck? I cannot call any of these UP or OP because (and this bit is important) I have not seen TWI's version of this yet, nobody has.
What I'm saying is it doesn't translate to "TWI are making OP weapons for sale".
Even if that was a concern, it's one for later, right now it's hats and paintjobs.
all the guns they sold in kf1 made the game easier and everybody knows this, no matter what you say.
obviously, you are on their payroll, so i'm done responding to you.
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I don't know about that, remember the 3rd weapon pack? Of course Flare revolvers, for example, were incredibly OP, but I don't think this was the intent. If you're saying that the added weapons will be OP, well it might end up that way. If you're actually saying that TWI intends to sell weapons that are blatantly better than the default set to give people an advantage over other players if they pay more money, well, that's not really something you have a basis for.
Yes they did, as a firebug I had the easiest time with those revolvers, made it dull. My thinking is they, like every human and their past experiences, will learn from it and take that into account this time? Or does that seem too farfetched, compared to simply knowing the future and being right?
As for being on anyone's payroll, I like to take opposing sides of arguments regardless. It's called Devil's Advocate, makes for a better discussion and filters out anything without substance to back it up.
i didn't buy any of them but i have friends who did so i have tried all of them and they all seem to make the game much easier to win.
what exactly do you think is meant by "guns with new gameplay elements"?
since i am obviously not smart enough to read between the lines.
Yeah. One thing that really turns me off of systems like this isn't necessarily the paying aspect. It's the fact that I can amass a collection of dozens of rare skins that look awesome, but in the end it doesn't mean anything because someone with enough cash can have a collection just as impressive with no effort. And I definitely second the "if you have it you won't get it" system. Payday 2 had something like this for mods and customization materials you got from card drops. If you had 2 copies of the same item, you won't get any more.
New gameplay elements, far as I can tell, means different-functioning weapons which let the perk play differently (not necessarily better). For example, take a sharpshooter and give them 4 standard guns and 4 "new element" guns. The first pack could be semi-automatic rifles which allow him to be flexible, able to pump out a number of rounds and deal with groups on his own, but needs a bit of help possibly with 3 scrakes.
The second lot are all bolt-action rifles, so you need to work a bolt every time you fire a shot but they hit like a truck or even have AoE damage, hurting nearby enemies. This would make him a lot less able to deal with clot-groups but 3 scrakes would be no problem. That is 2 different gameplay elements, designed in a way that they are as powerful as eachother.
I think the first pack was pretty darn OP, the second pack was partially OP(Orca was okay, ZedThrower was fun but not much use), people complained that the weapons in the third pack were useless (except the harpoon gun <3, and I'm sure people got use out of the ZED MK2), what that says to me, at the very least, is that they were working on it over time.
It's not that you're not smart enough, it's just that you seem to rush to come to that conclusion. Elements could be all sorts of things, there could be a weapon that freezes zeds, that'd be a new element. Or a weapon, like the blowerthrower, that makes zeds attack eachother. To me "element" just means different ways of doing things, more unique stuff instead of guns that just straight up kill stuff.
Of course it's not necessarily that I have the correct idea of the word 'element', but this fundamental difference between us shows that it's at least not as obvious as you believe.
wow. i am beginning to feel like Roddy Piper in John Carpenter's "They Live".
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Precisely this, any guess is as valid as any other.
Just like the Trading Floor itself, we can only talk about what we *think may happen* as we haven't stuck our hands in and played with it yet!
It's the same reason I don't understand the hatred flying around, beyond fear of what the future could be (Overkill).
perhaps you don't but i bet someone will.
it makes me kind of sick to my stomach that you guys pretend that they are charging 3X for this game only so they can keep the lights on down at tripwire studios so the programmers don't have to work in the dark when it's much more likely that when this thing takes hold, every employee at tripwire is going to be driving a Ferrari.
i guess you guys must be among them, no one could be as blind as you are pretending to be.
Wait charging 3x for the game? What are you talking about? That might be something different. As far as the Ferrari thing, again, this just shows how different people are. You really think this is going to make bank for everyone at TW? TW isn't a big company, they already aren't rolling in money, they aren't going to go from their current state to solid gold toilets.
As far as the whole "everyone who disagrees with me is pretending" thing, well
I don't know what to tell you, that's not an argument.
Because he brought logic onto the internet? Damn I wish I could get a Ferrari for that...
