Fallout 3 Megaton..er.. MEGATHREAD
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Bethesda today announced that Obsidian Entertainment is working on a new game(PC, 360, PS3) in the Fallout universe, 'Fallout: New Vegas'.
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And it isnt even being worked on by Bethesda.
Never really got into Fallout 3, i thought it wasnt all that great. Adding the name of Vegas doesnt do it much good for me either
Never really got into Fallout 3, i thought it wasnt all that great. Adding the name of Vegas doesnt do it much good for me either
Know this is an old thread but just wandering... how does Fallout 3 compare to Oblivion? The GOTY edition is REALLY cheap right now on D2D so I'm tempted to buy it.
I *hated* Oblivion with a passion so if Fallout 3 is similar I think I'll steer clear even for this low price. Compared to ME1/2 and DA:O I just thought Oblivion was horrible. Sure it was big and you could do "whatever you wanted" but I'll take a good story/characters over some huge open game world with miles of generic country side populated by 3 re-used NPCs in different outfits any day.
I couldn't agree more with Yahtzee's review of Oblivion... which makes me a tad hesitant to get Fallout 3 since it's made by the same company and all...
I *hated* Oblivion with a passion so if Fallout 3 is similar I think I'll steer clear even for this low price. Compared to ME1/2 and DA:O I just thought Oblivion was horrible. Sure it was big and you could do "whatever you wanted" but I'll take a good story/characters over some huge open game world with miles of generic country side populated by 3 re-used NPCs in different outfits any day.
I couldn't agree more with Yahtzee's review of Oblivion... which makes me a tad hesitant to get Fallout 3 since it's made by the same company and all...
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Fallout 3 is definately better than Oblivion.
But, IMHO, it's not as good as the original Fallout titles. I've tried to play FO3 3 times now, and I never get more than 10-20 hours into it, because I get bored.
So I say try it for that price, as many people do like it, and there are worse games out there.
But, IMHO, it's not as good as the original Fallout titles. I've tried to play FO3 3 times now, and I never get more than 10-20 hours into it, because I get bored.
So I say try it for that price, as many people do like it, and there are worse games out there.
The main story in fallout sucks. But I love everything else about it, all the secondary stories, the ambient, the crazy **** that happens and the little details are very immersive. There are some great characters ands stories there. Just ignore the main one and you are fine.
And then there is the crazy amount of modding you can do to it.
And then there is the crazy amount of modding you can do to it.
I really enjoyed the game and have roughly 100 hours into it.
But no, the story and characters are not nearly as good as ME1/2. Not even close. I finished the main story in 25 or so hours. The rest were side quests, exploration, and other stuff. The overall polish is not as good as ME1/2 either. FO3 is far more opened ended though.
I have not played Oblivion, but if you are looking for an Mass Effect type game than FO3 is not it.
But no, the story and characters are not nearly as good as ME1/2. Not even close. I finished the main story in 25 or so hours. The rest were side quests, exploration, and other stuff. The overall polish is not as good as ME1/2 either. FO3 is far more opened ended though.
I have not played Oblivion, but if you are looking for an Mass Effect type game than FO3 is not it.
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Fallout 3 is better than Oblivion, but it did not stand out as one of my greatest gaming experiences.
The atmosphere is good and it's quite dark (themed). What sucks is how it all abruptly comes to an end then inadvertently asks you to buy the DLC to finish of the main story.
For that price with the DLC included it is worth a look, it still has that Oblivion feel - it is on the same engine.
The atmosphere is good and it's quite dark (themed). What sucks is how it all abruptly comes to an end then inadvertently asks you to buy the DLC to finish of the main story.
For that price with the DLC included it is worth a look, it still has that Oblivion feel - it is on the same engine.
Fallout 3 is to original Fallouts what Oblivion is to Morrorwind, both are horrible, buggy, consolised and rape original lore
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Fallout and ME can't be compared as FO3 is a huge open-world game which therefore puts less emphasis on character(s) (interaction). Nevertheless the game atmosphere is superb and the game tells some really awesome stories in all those very varied quests. I did not feel reminded of Oblivion except that of course there are some similarities from a technical point of view since it's the same engine.
I agree to an extent as whilst I enjoyed Fallout 3 it in no way felt like a Fallout game. The bad writing, lack of humour and charm and general atmosphere all felt like a Bethesda game rather than a Fallout game. The original two were superior in almost all regards.
I thought New Vegas came a lot closer to recreating what was so special about the Fallout games and whilst isn't perfect is a lot better than Fallout 3.
As for Oblivion I also agree it's a poorer cousin to Morrowind however it's still a good game in comparison to the majority of other RPGs out there and hopefully with Skyrim they can bring back a lot of what made Morrowind great.
There's a couple of things worth keeping in mind with Fallout-3.
For one it is not a shooter really, it has guns and an FPS view, but people who went into the game thinking they would get a serious shooter where very disappointed.
It's and FPS-RPG, and you definately need to approach it as an RPG where the combat just happens to feature guns instead of the usual swords and magic, you should definately not be playing it for the shooting mechanics alone, because they are not the game's strong point.
Nor is the game's main story line, it's kinda.. well it's not great, it starts out just fine, but about half way through it kinda seems to lose momentum, and it only gets less engaging from there, and ends on a downer.
What you really should be playing it for is the exploration and all the side quests, there really is a lot of content there, it's not all great, but some of it it is very good, and just the scale of the world and the exploration you can do is awesome if you like that sort of thing in games.
It's extremely buggy and glitchy, save constantly, you never know when the game will crash, or when a quest gets screwed up over some minor glitch. It's also very fickle about what hardware/software combinations it'll run well on, i had tons of crashes and glitches, others have had much smoother experiances with the game, and nobody has been able to pinpoint what makes the difference or fully fix it.
Mods make the game, there's a huge catalog of mods for it, and you definately need to look into them, there's some really good stuff out there.
Also, Fo3 is not a great sequal to 1 and 2, not terribly faithful to them if you will, and that clearly cheesed off a lot of Fo fans. I took it as a standalone experiance, and that definately made it better.
So yeah, it is a very flawed game, but if you play it for the right reasons, it's also a very good game, play it for the wrong reasons though.. yeah, there are people who really despise this game, most of them beeing the fanbase of the origionals it seems.
But if you can take it as a standalone game, and you can live with the following things, then it could be worth a purchase:
Do you like sandbox exploration? Because that it does, and does really well, and it's the main thing i personally like the game for.
Can you accept that the main storyline will be something you just do a mission or two of every now and again, between exploration and doing side quests? Because that seems to be the best way to play it, the main quest isen't good enough on it's own really.
Can you accept that it's gonna need some mods to be at it's best? Because that is definately the case, after playing it with a few mods that appealed to my tastes, i could never go back to playing it vanilla, it's definately a modders game, much like Oblivion was.
Can you accept that it's not a straight up shooter, but should be played more for the RPG elements? It's not a great shooter..
If the above sounds ok by you, then yeah, it may be worth the purchase (infact the only reason i won't say "then you should buy it" is the buggy nature of the game).
For one it is not a shooter really, it has guns and an FPS view, but people who went into the game thinking they would get a serious shooter where very disappointed.
It's and FPS-RPG, and you definately need to approach it as an RPG where the combat just happens to feature guns instead of the usual swords and magic, you should definately not be playing it for the shooting mechanics alone, because they are not the game's strong point.
Nor is the game's main story line, it's kinda.. well it's not great, it starts out just fine, but about half way through it kinda seems to lose momentum, and it only gets less engaging from there, and ends on a downer.
What you really should be playing it for is the exploration and all the side quests, there really is a lot of content there, it's not all great, but some of it it is very good, and just the scale of the world and the exploration you can do is awesome if you like that sort of thing in games.
It's extremely buggy and glitchy, save constantly, you never know when the game will crash, or when a quest gets screwed up over some minor glitch. It's also very fickle about what hardware/software combinations it'll run well on, i had tons of crashes and glitches, others have had much smoother experiances with the game, and nobody has been able to pinpoint what makes the difference or fully fix it.
Mods make the game, there's a huge catalog of mods for it, and you definately need to look into them, there's some really good stuff out there.
Also, Fo3 is not a great sequal to 1 and 2, not terribly faithful to them if you will, and that clearly cheesed off a lot of Fo fans. I took it as a standalone experiance, and that definately made it better.
So yeah, it is a very flawed game, but if you play it for the right reasons, it's also a very good game, play it for the wrong reasons though.. yeah, there are people who really despise this game, most of them beeing the fanbase of the origionals it seems.
But if you can take it as a standalone game, and you can live with the following things, then it could be worth a purchase:
Do you like sandbox exploration? Because that it does, and does really well, and it's the main thing i personally like the game for.
Can you accept that the main storyline will be something you just do a mission or two of every now and again, between exploration and doing side quests? Because that seems to be the best way to play it, the main quest isen't good enough on it's own really.
Can you accept that it's gonna need some mods to be at it's best? Because that is definately the case, after playing it with a few mods that appealed to my tastes, i could never go back to playing it vanilla, it's definately a modders game, much like Oblivion was.
Can you accept that it's not a straight up shooter, but should be played more for the RPG elements? It's not a great shooter..
If the above sounds ok by you, then yeah, it may be worth the purchase (infact the only reason i won't say "then you should buy it" is the buggy nature of the game).
I probably only had FO3 crash on me 4 or so times during my entire play time. Not too many bugs aside from NPCs getting stuck in the ground or having path finding issues. In my experience you do not need mods to play the game... I don't even think I installed a single mod.
The game is poor as a shooter indeed, but it clearly isn't an FPS.
The game is poor as a shooter indeed, but it clearly isn't an FPS.
Same with me, only crashed 2-3 times. What very much sucked though was that after some patch, can't remember which ones, you had to start over because the 'old' savegames didn't work anymore.
