[Error] Exploit-bug for machinegunners at '''some'' windows

[Verluste]

...from the enemy's point of view that is.
I've experienced multiple times as a sniper that I saw a MG'er setup on a windowsill, I saw the MG bipod but not the MG'er itself. He didnt look at me because then I would see his head. But the strange thing being, he DID saw me and when he fired the muzzleflash came from the wall-part next to the window.
It was like he was shooting and looking through the wall.
Shooting the area behind the bipod multiple times (in the assumption the playermodel didnt apear because of some bug) did not do anything.

It looks like an exploit somehow since the enemy cant see the MG'er, but the MG'er CAN see and shoot them.

I saw this on Apartments (right bank house first floor window) and Pavlov's House. Especially on pavlov's house there is usually one german MG'er going to the most East-building, camping the 3rd floor (not top floor) and setting up behind a window, where this bug occurs. Needless to say, he is exploiting to the end of the round with this excellent view of 40% of the battlefield.

I'll try to get some screenshots of it.

 

[Sir Reginald]

there so many people exploiting now it funny
why you playing sniper they are useless
it better to Twink the game and just use a rifle
if you twink your game you can see much better
, everyone just glows
everyone doing it
it part of the game

 

[Devil_Inside]

there so many people exploiting now it funny
why you playing sniper they are useless
it better to Twink the game and just use a rifle
if you twink your game you can see much better
, everyone just glows
everyone doing it
it part of the game

So that's your excuse for exploiting the settings? You think everyone is doing it? You're wrong. Period.


To OP: I play as MG 95% of the time and sometimes the deploying glitches in 3rd person, while you can see everything as normal in 1st person. A friend took a screenshot of me being prone and firing my MG, and while It seemed fine in first person, my body in third person was almost underground. I doubt anyone is doing it on purpose, as you can't know when it happens.

 

[GoddangGurnades]

Give Machine Gunners more credit.
It's a tough job, especially since you have to completely reveal yourself to shoot accurately. I will say this much: I also play MG 95% of the time, and have seen these so called "Exploits" myself, and can say that most of the are just graphical errors. You may see the muzzle flush come through the wall, but the gunner is actually at the window in their perspective. People don't intentionally exploit these glitches because they don't know it's occurring, so don't blame all the MG Gunners for cheating.

To Sir Reginald: You are a friggan' idiot.

To OP:
Have you considered that maybe the gunner was doing a mag-change? IE ducking below the window with the gun straight up? Did you attempt to shoot the window where he should be?

 

[Verluste]

To OP:
Have you considered that maybe the gunner was doing a mag-change? IE ducking below the window with the gun straight up? Did you attempt to shoot the window where he should be?

If you would have read with somewhat more attention this question would not be needed
It is, probably, a non-intentional exploit although I see the same ppl using it on the same spots on the particular maps.

 

[Das Bose]

there so many people exploiting now it funny
why you playing sniper they are useless
it better to Twink the game and just use a rifle
if you twink your game you can see much better
, everyone just glows
everyone doing it
it part of the game

No m8, cheap people are doing it, the rest of us are not

 

[Colt .45 killer]

This can also be done on the terrain, I have some screenshots of it, and I'll post them later today when I get home.

 

[Verluste]

This can also be done on the terrain, I have some screenshots of it, and I'll post them later today when I get home.

That is new for me.
That

 

[Colt .45 killer]

as promised.

Spoiler!

Spoiler!

its not immediatly apparent if the user knows they are basically invisible to the enemies, but there are many places on the terrain where this happens and the player is basically impervious to enemy fire. Almost like crouching and using an emplaced MG in MOHAA, ( for those who remember those days )

 

[Verluste]

as promised.

Spoiler!

Spoiler!

its not immediatly apparent if the user knows they are basically invisible to the enemies, but there are many places on the terrain where this happens and the player is basically impervious to enemy fire. Almost like crouching and using an emplaced MG in MOHAA, ( for those who remember those days )

This is the same principle here:

He can shoot and look through the wall, but from russian side (in spectator) you cant see his head or any muzzleflash.
Would he have been setup a few inches to the left, you could at least see his muzzleflash.
The windows in the stories under him have the same issue.

 

[Plons]

I can confirm this bug on the appartements map, first floor right side building near the east bridge. A german MG'er picked me off multiple times while I could only see his barrel. I was in the center building on the russian side of the river bed, top floor, last window to the right. I even tryed to get him with bullet penetration but could not with my mn1930 rifle. And yes the nozzle flashes came from the wall next to the window.

 

[Verluste]

I can confirm this bug on the appartements map, first floor right side building near the east bridge. A german MG'er picked me off multiple times while I could only see his barrel. I was in the center building on the russian side of the river bed, top floor, last window to the right. I even tryed to get him with bullet penetration but could not with my mn1930 rifle. And yes the nozzle flashes came from the wall next to the window.

Exactly.

 

[Temporary]

just wasted 3 mags of my MP40 into the wall (= 60 bullets), trying to shoot a MG mowing my teamates at the spawn 1.

I shot below, on the left, on the right, 0 to 5 meters from the muzzle flash.

I couldn't hit him, not even once.

Apparently the guy knew this bug, since he was always putting his bipod in similar setup to trigger such bug.

 

[Verluste]

PavlovsHouse is notorious for the exploit-building, it's this building in the distance with SHIFT-zoom applied:

MG'ers exploiting:

Aside from the exploit bug, you have the fact that for the Russians, that building is very foggy and unclear in the distance but for the Germans in that building, they have a very clear view of 40% of the whole battlefield, including a vital capzone (park) and 5m away from a spawn point. Poor newly spawned Russians just run into the open having no clue. Even without bugs it is very, very difficult to even see a german there behind one of the windows. That is with a sniperrifle.
Maybe a small unbalance here?

 

[Golf33]

So that's why I always have trouble picking Germans off from those windows!

 

[6S.Maraz]

I cannot reproduce this exploit, as a MG-er the game does not allow me to deploy in that position. And the walls are blocking both my vision and my bullets anyway.

I suppose that it can be a misalignment in position between your client, the server and the gunner's PC. The gunner is correctly set in his PC but his position is reported wrongly to other clients... maybe.

Please devs take a look at this !

Maraz