Embassy Guards

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Bluehawk

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I was wondering, does anyone know what organization provided security to the German embassies during the Nazi era, as in an analogue to say US embassies' Marines? Were they regular Heer, some detachment of the SS like the Begleitskommando?

I really can't find any information on this anywhere.
 

Capt.Marion

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The Marines are not just embassies guards. That would be the Embassy Detachments, stationed at the embassies. The United States Marine Corps is a highly offensive fighting force.
 

Bluehawk

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rofl yes thank you I know all about the United States Marine Corps and its purpose in the US military.

But in the specific context of diplomatic missions, Marines serve as security.

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All I want to know is the Third Reich's equivalent.
 

Bluehawk

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That's a possibility.

The only thing I've found so far is from this rather sketchy website http://www.chaosacrossamerica.com/RSHA/RSHA.htm which I'm reluctant to trust, and it states that the Leibstandarte, later to be the LSSAH, which was autonomous enough in the pre-war era but became part of the Waffen-SS proper during Barbarossa, provided security.

Perhaps elements of the division still served overseas at those embassies not yet retracted?
 
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Lt_Kettch

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That is indeed a difficult research topic.

It looks like the embassies today are guarded by regular policemen (maybe Bundespolizei?).

I could imagine that it was similiar back then if the the embassies are not guarded by polciemen I would guess that they were either closed (the one in London???) or guarded by SS or Feldj
 

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I would hazard a guess that the German embassy in London and the UK counterpart in Berlin would be closed pretty fast when war broke out :p

Maybe there was not so much security at embassies at all, this mostly came after the war? Like the huge embassies the US has now. And embassies were smaller, maybe only consulates?
 

Capt.Marion

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Maybe there was not so much security at embassies at all, this mostly came after the war? Like the huge embassies the US has now. And embassies were smaller, maybe only consulates?

I was going to say... maybe do research on the embassies themselves first. I'm trying to figure out where there would have been Gerry embassies during WWII... Perhaps in Japan, Italy, the friendly countries (but not "occupied")...?
 

Bluehawk

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They definitely had one in Toyko up until '45 when the Allies burned the whole damn city down ;) It's location was later used to build the National Diet Library.
 

Demjansk

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I know that prior to WWI at least, at least some of the embassy security was pulled from regular infantry units.

Here's an excerpt from the history of a General that I was researching not too long ago:

13.07.1894 Fahnenjunker im 2. bayrischen Inf.Rgt.
24.05.1896 Leutnant im 19. bayrischen Inf.Rgt.
30.09.1900 chinesischer Dolmetscher im 4. ostasiatischen Inf.Rgt.
01.05.1901 bei der Gesandschaftswache in Peking
18.11.1903 zur