Dual Wielder

[RuneHarle]

I'd offer to run one, but recently my net has been dropping my dedi often. BTW, about the damage increase - currently, apart from medic, no perk @ lvl 6 has less than 50% damage increase. So it might be best to kick the overall up to 50%. Some perks even have 60%.

As I said this is the alpha, I will consider after I get feedback on it

 

[ro_sauce]

Spoiler!

well, my group will soon be hosting testing servers for anyone who wants to use them.

they will have ftp access to their server, they will be able to use a website linked to their server to start/stop the server.
we will be using auto-restart scripts for them, unless not wanted.
we are working on filtering crashlogs so that the reason for the crash will be sent to the person's email/website/wherever.
we are working on a auto-redirect script, so that uploaded files will be compressed and transferred to our redirect server, without the person having to do it manually.

we are still working on all the permissions and website script stuff, so that people who want a testing server will be able to use it with ease, while not interfering with other people's testing servers.

 

[RuneHarle]

We have a closed alpha testing server for right now but that is very good information to have.


--edit--
I would like to note that the perk has been coded with and without the MK23 so that the server owner has the ability to quickly choose. The one being tested is the non-mk23 version and all changes made to it will be applied to the mk23 version.

 

[FluX]

Please don't be asking to be a tester as we have only got a few selected (RuneHarle's idea) as he wanted just a few people and get direct opinions.

 

[DerpMoose]

Ohaider?

Ohaider?

I think it should end up just dual wielding all the really UP weapons. Losing half of the gun's ammo, raising spread, and no ADS, (Aiming down sights.) Also making the cost be 150% more.

 

[sheaownsaford]

Flux I think I added you on Steam, and I hope that one of my three attempts at replying to RuneHarle were successful

 

[RuneHarle]

Closed alpha testing is scheduled for the 24th, just updating so people know what's going on with it.

 

[RuneHarle]

For the testers, as it stands current builds that currently work well, provided you can come up with the dosh. Please note that the other weapons are Off-Perk and the buyer should focus on duals for the bonuses.

w/ MK23:
D.Mk23 (3weight), D.Handcannon(4weight), D.44(4weight), MP5M(3weight) = 14weight
D.Mk23 (3weight), D.Handcannon(4weight), D.44(4weight), Katana(3weight) = 14weight
D.Mk23 (3weight), D.Handcannon(4weight), M4M203(6weight),
Machete or Pipebomb(1weight) = 14 weight

w/o:
D.Handcannon(4weight), Huntingshotty or AA12(10weight) = 14 weight
D.Handcannon(4weight), D.44(4weight), M4M203(6weight) = 14weight
D.Handcannon(4weight), D.44(4weight), MP5M(3weight), Katana(3weight) = 14weight

 

[halbridious]

Aye - the real question with a perk like this is what to carry or what strategies to use when the fleshie hits

You know what would be kinda cool? lvl 6 could get +1 weight. *poof* now you can carry the m99 Dual mk23 and an M99 in the same loadout? As charlie sheen would say - Bi Winning

 

[RuneHarle]

Aye - the real question with a perk like this is what to carry or what strategies to use when the fleshie hits

You know what would be kinda cool? lvl 6 could get +1 weight. *poof* now you can carry the m99 Dual mk23 and an M99 in the same loadout? As charlie sheen would say - Bi Winning

omg i hate sheen

I would also like to state that most of my personal testing has been done on west london, and I have not needed something stronger than handcannons on normal thus far at level 1 and 2. Also note that like the commando, fleshies are suppose to be a challenge and not all classes should be able to solo everything without some/alot of sacrifice.

I have been kiting fleshies and using the vehicles and corners to end the prevent the rages

 

[halbridious]

Not a fan either but he has some rather quotable quotes lol.

 

[RuneHarle]

Not a fan either but he has some rather quotable quotes lol.

quotable yes, worth remembering? not really >.<.

Aside that, Mk23,Handcannons, and 44s already penetrate so it helps with crowd clearing to designate one for crowds and one for big mobs so as to conserve ammo.

 

[FluX]

omg i hate sheen

I would also like to state that most of my personal testing has been done on west london, and I have not needed something stronger than handcannons on normal thus far at level 1 and 2. Also note that like the commando, fleshies are suppose to be a challenge and not all classes should be able to solo everything without some/alot of sacrifice.

I have been kiting fleshies and using the vehicles and corners to end the prevent the rages

Sorry to drop the bombshell mate but you NEED to balance the perk for a specific reason and you can't keep it to just an anti-crawler perk
My idea would be to make it a mid-damaged perk where it can make some decent damage with handcannons as to me magnums/9mm's are just for trash killing, handcannons are for shear power. I think being able to kill a fleshpound with two lots of dual weaponry isn't a bad idea to be honest. There is too many trash killing perks out there in my honest opinion.

 

[RuneHarle]

Sorry to drop the bombshell mate but you NEED to balance the perk for a specific reason and you can't keep it to just an anti-crawler perk
My idea would be to make it a mid-damaged perk where it can make some decent damage with handcannons as to me magnums/9mm's are just for trash killing, handcannons are for shear power. I think being able to kill a fleshpound with two lots of dual weaponry isn't a bad idea to be honest. There is too many trash killing perks out there in my honest opinion.

Again, not against upping damage, I just want to see how it does as is and see all the feedback. From my own testing I can see that damage will probably be raised.

 

[halbridious]

Also - your a normal player, which is fine, but alot of us play on hard and above, where the specimen health skyrockets, which is why most perks have 50-60% damage. remember that the perk has to work on suicidal and hoe effectively too

 

[RuneHarle]

Also - your a normal player, which is fine, but alot of us play on hard and above, where the specimen health skyrockets, which is why most perks have 50-60% damage. remember that the perk has to work on suicidal and hoe effectively too

not quite a normal player, just currently testing it on normal to se ehow it feels compared to other perks

 

[RuneHarle]

Alpha testing complete, making changes and then going to beta testing

 

[RuneHarle]

The alpha changes have been made and beta testing will begin soon.

OP edited to include changes

 

[halbridious]

you made all the changes i wanted Nice job man. Can't wait to see what the rest of the community thinks

Only other suggestion i have is possibly a total ammo count booster - in later waves your Deagles empty quick, and you need that power. Especially if you don't have the .k23s :/

 

[FluX]

you made all the changes i wanted Nice job man. Can't wait to see what the rest of the community thinks

Only other suggestion i have is possibly a total ammo count booster - in later waves your Deagles empty quick, and you need that power. Especially if you don't have the .k23s :/

I told you in the alpha to NOT use that when you're doing waves 5+ and use the magnums/9mm's for the trash. ONLY use the HC for Scrakes and Flesh pounds!