Discrepancy in leveling guns

[Kommando_Nob]

So after maxin the Kar98 to level 50 and getting veteran rifleman, I decided it was time to get a different gun to level 50. My eyes settled on the German LMG and I try to pick it when I can now. So after a bunch of rounds I went to check how my levels were doing to notice I have it at level 14 at the moment. What suprised me is the amount of kills needed for the next level, it wants me to make 90 kills at level 14 to get to 15.

90 kills is quite a lot considering it is only at level 14 I thought, so I went to check on the Mosin Nagant that I now level up whenever I end up rifleman again, I have my Mosing Nagant at level 22 and it requires me to make a mere 28 kills to get to level 23. Let me say that again, 28 kills to get it to level 23.

How is this anywhere near fair? I understand the machine gun has the potential to score more kills if you are set up well and protected, but honestly this almost never happens. I get around the same amount of kills as I would have gotten with my super accurate rifle, while having to put up with deploying the weapon making me a sitting duck for rifleman. I am not stupid and set up my gun in the open, I always try to have my flanks protected... and yet I can manage only a few more kills than my rifleman on average.

With it already asking 90 kills to advance to level 15, it seems a gargantuan task to get this gun to level 50 as I can only imagine it asking around a 1000 kills when you get to the level 40's.

Are the other guns as bad, or is the rifleman just lucky he can level up his gun real fast (because the devs think rifleman can't get kills so must level up easy).?

 

[Meismenotyou]

The easiest guns to level up are the 2 rifleman weapons. Even the sniper takes a stupid amount of kills to level.

There is a crazy difference in the killpoint requirements and it takes quite some time to get the MG 34 to level 50.

It takes no time getting to high levels with the rifles.

Guns I use most -

MG 34 is level 50, because I played with that weapon exclusively since the reset.
MP 40 is level 34. After being done with the MG, I use this the second most and I play a lot. But it takes about as long as the MG.
K98 is level 30 or more I think and I haven't even used it that much.

It's ridiculous.

edit:

After level 40 with MG 34, it takes 150-180 kill points per level if I remember correctly. As long as you get 2 points for each kill, it is still 75-90 kills per level.

 

[Keyser_Söze]

Don't confuse kills with kill points. Kill points are needed to level weapons. Kill an enemy in a defensive capzone and it's worth 7 points, more if near a squad leader +2 and/or commander +2. Kill an enemy while attacking an objective and you will get 5 points for each kill. If you fight in the objectives you will level weapons much faster. If you are a camper it will be a long slow grind.

 

[Explorerbc]

Well in almost all my games there is a machine gunner camping in a spot killing everything that crosses half the map and if you check his stats his kills are a lot more than the average of the rest of the players in both teams. And since their killcount if often 30-50 (in long territory matches) it seems natural that they need more kills to level up. A rifleman on the other hand even in a good day won't manage to kill as many (maybe it is too easy for him to lvl up but still makes sense compared to lmgs).

 

[Meismenotyou]

^ I wasn't even sure if all those bonuses were added to the gun.

Nice to know, even though I am pretty much always around objectives, so I hadn't noticed.

It will take about 6600 kill points for level 50 MG 34

 

[Colour]

7150 for the C96. A pistol. MG34 needing that many kills isn't that bad compared to that.

 

[bsan89]

Wow there's really player who stick with one gun just to lvl it up?
I applaud your effort sir.

I can't do that, some weapon just doesn't work for me in some map.
I just use what ever class is available, that fits the the situation at the moment.
Just level it up as I play along.

Pretty much most of my gun are just lvl 5 ish LOL.
I don't even have bayonet yet.
I'm honor 61 too

 

[SchabeOink]

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[Remington]

I don't think it'll add all the bonus points towards that number. The last couple of times I checked, it used to give me 2 killpoints per kill. No matter what circumstances.

Btw... the C96 also needs a high amount of killpoints to get ranked up.

 

[Colour]

I am pretty sure that you get 4 kill points per kill. Check your stats, get a kill, check them again. You have 4 more points. It only says +2 per kill at the end, before the map changes, I think.

 

[DeltaElite121]

I don't think it'll add all the bonus points towards that number. The last couple of times I checked, it used to give me 2 killpoints per kill. No matter what circumstances.

Btw... the C96 also needs a high amount of killpoints to get ranked up.

combined with the fact it's a POS compared to russian counterparts... doesn't end well. Can't hit the broad side of a barn with it.

 

[hishnik]

where do you have this from?

Seems pretty logical to me that the points you get 'around' the one kill would add up to it.

 

[amdr]

where do you have this from?

He probably played the game...

 

[Westernesse]

I've gotten MG-34 to 50 and it should need a lot of kills, your an MG, you get more kills when your well setup than any one, the only people who can catch you are Commanders with arty and other MGs. Pistols needing so many kills is crazy though. Also, the unlock is good.

 

[LOOY]

It's pretty ridiculous how long it takes to level up weapons. It takes about one week of grinding a weapon to get it past lvl 25 with an average number of kills and play time. I think the rifles level faster because they are completely inferior weapons when you compare them to semis and MkBs.

 

[ComeAndSee]

Took 5,000 kill point to get my SVT-40 to 50. I got it from 1 to 25 in a weekend and very casually on weekdays + another Saturday grind got it to 50.

Got my PPSH to 26 ATM. PPSH seem's much better over lvl 20, before that it's recoil is horrendous.

 

[Vesper11]

I'm fine with weapons leveling, its not some kind of MMORPG where you desperately need to reach high level, just sit back and enjoy the game. And I dont think it would be nice if everyone had 250 round MG34 and Mkb from the start. As for rifle, well, while L25 unlock is nice (and necessary for CQC) and can be reached fast I wish it wasnt as easy to get to L50, because when you do so you'll play riflemen less because you can level other weapons instead. And I enjoy playing rifleman...