Difficulty and balance

[Dr. Lethal]

I mean this is not the topic when we talk about first person view, where all what the player does is not shown at all to the spectator, we don't care if we don't see behind the player at all, this is personal preference if you want to see behind the player you have two specific cameras to do that so go to these specific cameras to do that if you want, but you lack all what the player does in first person view, you don't see the player aiming, switching weapons and all. Still you're off topic and talk about your personal preference as the focus point, but that doesn't solve the question of the blank first person view missing all what you're supposed to see if you want to spectate in first person view, aka a proper first person view which doesn't exist in all TWI games (RO2/RS/KF2/RS2)

I don't personally babysit people when playing, they are good enough to not need to state the obvious (zed spawns and all). But this is off topic when speaking about what is missing in first person camera. First person view lacks the weapon, and all the things the player does in the game, this is a floating camera replacing the player's head.

Don't try moving the goal posts by saying it's not the topic when looking through first person POV. Everything you described about being in first person can be seen in 3rd person, which has the added benefit of being able to look at that players immediate surroundings. There's really no point in watching what they do in first person because it's not like you're the one at the controls. You complain about me talking about personal preference, yet you keep talking about wanting a 'proper' field of view that wouldn't add anything more than what you already see in 3rd person. So as far as being 'off topic', that a blatant lie.

Also, I don't backseat players besides offering important advice like ammo locations and where certain zeds are. It's one thing to hear the global roar of a fleshpound, but it's another to know exactly where it is if the player doesn't see it.

 

[®omano]

You literally don't understand anything I'm talking about, and continue to be off topic saying other cameras do have this or that.. totally not the point. First person view is not a real first person view it is a floating camera inside the player's head, lacking everything a first person view has ingame when you're the player. That you prefer third person camera is not the topic. You thinking there is no point using first person camera is off topic. Also this is not about the field of view you're making things up nobody talk about the FOV it is also off topic.

• First person view when you are the player: you see your gun, your hands, you see the various animations depending on what you do (healing, welding, throwing nades, and so on)...
• First person view when you are spectator: you see nothing, you are inside a floating camera near the player's head

Anyway this is not what the thread was about but you're literally talking about something else when the point was just to say the first person view lacks these things. That's all, simple, not hard to understand, I don't know why you're fighting against simple facts when it is just how it is. Still no need to tell us you don't like the first person camera, it's OK, your preference, but that's not the topic.

I'm done on this simple thing about first person camera, anyway as I said this is not what the thread was about it was just a reply on what Neuro75013 said about the missing weapons in first person camera.

 

[Dr. Lethal]

You literally don't understand anything I'm talking about, and continue to be off topic saying other cameras do have this or that.. totally not the point. First person view is not a real first person view it is a floating camera inside the player's head, lacking everything a first person view has ingame when you're the player. That you prefer third person camera is not the topic. You thinking there is no point using first person camera is off topic. Also this is not about the field of view you're making things up nobody talk about the FOV it is also off topic.

• First person view when you are the player: you see your gun, your hands, you see the various animations depending on what you do (healing, welding, throwing nades, and so on)...
• First person view when you are spectator: you see nothing, you are inside a floating camera near the player's head

Anyway this is not what the thread was about but you're literally talking about something else when the point was just to say the first person view lacks these things. That's all, simple, not hard to understand, I don't know why you're fighting against simple facts when it is just how it is. Still no need to tell us you don't like the first person camera, it's OK, your preference, but that's not the topic.

I'm done on this simple thing about first person camera, anyway as I said this is not what the thread was about it was just a reply on what Neuro75013 said about the missing weapons in first person camera.

Apparently you're too close minded to even understand the simple fact that what you're looking for in first person can be seen in 3rd person. It's funny how even though I said that twice, you pretend to act like you don't understand cause all you want is to see a weapon in first person POV even though you don't need to. There's literally no benefit you'd get from it and claim that any statement that disagrees with you is 'off-topic', when it reality you're still trying to ignore the bigger picture and push forward your own ideas.

Also, the main idea of this thread was about balance changes. I only decided to say something about you wanting a 'better' first person view because what you wanted is already seen from other points of view, yet you seem to think TW should waste time doing something about the first POV just so you can pretend you're playing the game or didn't die recently.

 

[®omano]

Excessive reading comprehension issues. Not worth wasting time.

 

[Dr. Lethal]

So you're resorting to making up excuses that make you look like an even bigger idiot to back out of an argument? If you want to complain about reading comprehension, you may want to do a self-evaluation.

 

[®omano]

Ofc that's unintended, just like parry spam exploits and other stuff like the missing weapons when you are spectating or stuff like that.

this ^

Now read all your replies.

 

[Dr. Lethal]

this ^

Now read all your replies.

And I did mention those, except I clearly said everything you want to see in first person is visible in 3rd person. The fact you still want it is quite pointless.

 

[Bluntman420]

I like the idea of more big zeds on HoE but I don't think HoE "needs" more big zeds. Other than that I completely disagree with everything else.