Difference between normal and carbine MN?

[[Insert name here]]

Whats the difference between theese two? I heard that the carbine is less accurate than the normal, and I know it can't mount the bayonet mad: ). But I'm wondering what advantages are there to using the carbine version?

 

[ramsy66]

Yeah, the bottom one is pretty much pointless, it's got a shorter barrel making it less accurate and also can't attach a bayonet. Somebody said it was faster to bolt each round but I haven't found that. It's pretty much completely pointless, don't bother using it.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

There is a thread covering this topic already...

 

[Rabid]

The carbine has less sway, moves faster when not iron sighted, and I think it may move from free aim to iron sights a little quicker. The downsides are a tiny accuracy reduction (although it really is negligable) and no bayonet.

I can live with the reduced accuracy but no bayonet takes away half the fun of using a bolt action rifle

 

[xO^Maus0r]

I can live with the reduced accuracy but no bayonet takes away half the fun of using a bolt action rifle

Yeah but how many times do you get to use the Bayonet? Good luck against a guy with an MP40 who knows you're coming...

I think bayonet use is wildly exaggerated on these boards. I'm a skilled player and I never let myself get close enough to have to use the bayonet. I rely on my bullets to do my talking. Many times I've been chased around around by some gayboy thrusting his weapon at me and calmly dropped him with a short burst.

 

[FuSiOn]

mn38 is so awesome......i own with it on kaukasus

 

[Cthulhu]

mn38 is so awesome......i own with it on kaukasus

Yeah, I like it on infantry-based maps and combined arms, but on tank maps I normally am either Anti-Tank, or Tank Driver.

 

[10-78 BusterKing]

Many times I've been chased around around by some gayboy thrusting his weapon at me and calmly dropped him with a short burst.

You made this a lot funnier then you meant it to be I'm sure when you included "gayboy"!

 

[MkH^]

I can't really tell if there's any different, but I just did pretty well with it in that map which name is impossible to spell. You know, the close combat infantry map with cool rain and lightning effects.

 

[Skew]

I think bayonet use is wildly exaggerated on these boards. I'm a skilled player and I never let myself get close enough to have to use the bayonet. I rely on my bullets to do my talking. Many times I've been chased around around by some gayboy thrusting his weapon at me and calmly dropped him with a short burst.

Yeah, because storming a fortified defense position is easily done with a few bullets.
I'm a gayboy then. I rush in and out in obstacles and try to suprise by enemies from behind.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

Krasnyi Oktyabr... simply say "red october" if you struggle

 

[[CoFR]BooBoo]

Actually I use the 91-30 and the M38 about equally. Both work well as iron-sighted snipers from a good rest.

 

[JesseCuster]

Well, I'll tell you this much: next time I'm hunting in brush, I'll be taking my M38 with me, instead of the 91/30. Unless I'm hunting pigs or javelinas, anyway ... then I'll take the M44 and make sure the bayonet is extended. You don't get a first shot kill on a pig or a javelina, you ain't gonna get a second shot, and you might need the bayonet!

 

[DieFledermaus]

It is not pointless, it is realistic to have weapons in a game that were appearing in the real battles even if they are similar to other weaponry. It was rare for a country to produce enough of one weapon or another to meet demand for it. Just like having the 40 and 41 on either side, it just ads to the atmosphere to have both kinds of rifles. Likewise, the U.S. had the M-1 and the M-1 carbine and even though the Brits were producing more Stens than they knew what to do with they also used the Thompson throughout certain theatres of operation.

As for me, I will take the carbine any day any time over the regular rifle.

And now in Ostfront it is even more accurate, I can drop em like flies in the Konigsplatz from very far away. The regluar rifle feels unweildy by comparison. After using the carbine for a while the rifle definately seems slower and heavier.

I come into situations where I would use a bayonet about once every ten battles and think they are overrated. When I do not have a semiauto or auto I do what riflemen are SUPPOSED to do - lay down a base of fire for the close assault troops, advancing a short ways behind them or guarding the flanks, which I love doing. The enemy usually do not get close enough to worry about hand to hand.

 

[Carazor]

...The regluar rifle feels unweildy by comparison. After using the carbine for a while the rifle definately seems slower and heavier.

A carbine = "a shortened rifle trading reach and accuracy for mobility and ease of use". Basically, it is for close quarters/urban combat. The Spetznaz didn't swap over to the AKS74u for no reason

 

[Oldih]

As many have said, carbine is shorter rifle with advatange of mobility and less weight.

No, you cannot use bayonet with 91\38, but IMHO, it is pretty much what sort of weapon you like. I myself favor carbine and use it if I can, since it has clearer sights and it is much more easier to aim for a starter, IMHO.

But carbine

 

[[Insert name here]]

Well, I acually happen to use the bayonet alot. But hitting with it is another story.