I would like to see bleeding and anatomy specific damages. It also would be nice if when you get shot you have some kind of stunned effect, kinda like a blur type motion that last a couple of seconds. Would give rifleman a chance against smg's.
Destroying T60 with grenades
- Thread starter Leprazy
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its allways funny to see ur 5cm shells bounce off the t60's front and he shoots 5 shots @ u and ur dead ^^
the T60 is truley overpowered on that map...
the T60 is truley overpowered on that map...
ummm il2 approacehs perfect realism quite well and it got tons of people playing it and having fun. For example if a pilot gets wounded he stays wounded with all the effects like slow movement, dark screen etc till he dies or bails out. And many times it takes 10-15 min to take off, gain altitude and fly to the enemy position but yet I don't see anyone complaining that the game is not *fun* and the amount of people playing it online and offline shows that.takadi said:
Geballte Ladung - "Bunched Grenade"
Used for disabling armoured vehicles and improv demolition.
Hafthohlladung - Attached Hollow Charge
"This was a shaped hollow charge that looked rather like an inverted funnel. It had a Sprengkapsel 8 detonator at the top of the handle which gave the operator 7.5 seconds to make his escape. The weapon utilized three powerful magnets that exerted a force of 45 kg to attach it to armoured vehicles. The later HHL 3 was even more powerful and over half a million were produced during the war."
This thing could penetrate up to 150mm armour
I used to have a scan from an osprey publishing book where a german from an anti-tank group was attaching this to the side of a stationary SU tank.
takadi said:
Of course you can, adrenaline (often combined with alcohol or other drugs) can accomplish some crazy things. There are numerous police and military reports of people basically ignoring bullet wounds. That doesn't mean that the wound won't be fatal and seriously **** the victim up for the rest of his life, but there is a real chance that he won't even notice it for a while because of the adrenaline or shock.
Of course the wounding system in RO isn't 100% realistic, but bullets still don't necessarily have the instant effect people often imagine. You get punctured by a metal projectile. The effects are determined by where it hits and how susceptible you are to the pain at that moment, it doesn't have to "stun" you or anything.
takadi said:
Huh?
How does our technology prevent us from...not allowing tanks to be destroyed with fragmentation grenades?
Why can't we just CHANGE it so that can't happen?
Realism is atainable. Don't be a defeatist.
Ouroboros said:
The reality is that you are playing a computer game. There is so much realism you can attain with that.
"Hafthohlladung - Attached Hollow Charge"
I actually saw a very old foreign movie that shows the Eastern front from the German's point of view ( I totally forgot what it was called, but I highly recommend it), but they use these grenades to a high extent, and they are very lethal. They would hide behind trenches and under holes, and when the tanks drove by, they would stick it under the tanks and escape without being noticed. The tanks would then be blasted to smithereens, and the crew would try to escape, only to be shot by the germans.
As for destroying a tank with a frag grenade, I don't think it's impossible, but it shouldn't be too easy. I don't know the exact details, but it's questionable how deep fragmentation pieces can penetrate tank armor. Not only that, they are small particles that spray in random directions, so the possibility of one actually penetrating and hitting a vital part of a tank and destroying it is slim.
Maybe they should add some attached hollow charges to the game.
Hmm this il2 sounds like a fun game, what is it about?noshens said:
Also, I think that this game just needs a little more work and retweaking. It's heading in the right direction, but hopefully it'll get to where it feels right.
daschewy said:
YES!!!! that movie is beyond godly.
stalingrad is pretty much neutral if u ask me
u see germans getting psycho and russians wich cry for theyr moms
gut that film with the big 3 part stalingrad dokumentation and i got to say it was a good buy
at last its NEUTRAL and not that US herro crap...
u see germans getting psycho and russians wich cry for theyr moms
gut that film with the big 3 part stalingrad dokumentation and i got to say it was a good buy
at last its NEUTRAL and not that US herro crap...
Blankku said:Stalingrad is from 1993..."Very old" indeed.
ehh it looked old...maybe just dated production quality. And I agree it was neutral in an aspect because it actuallly sympathized with the germans to an extent.
no it didnt symphatize with the germans
the movie just showed the point of view of the germans in stalingrad...
not that heroic crap
u can NEVER see a german who kills 30 enemys aka enemy at the gates...
the movie just showed the point of view of the germans in stalingrad...
not that heroic crap
u can NEVER see a german who kills 30 enemys aka enemy at the gates...
No I mean it didn't put the germans on a pedestal, but it was the first time I've seen a WWII movie where the germans weren't portrayed as the "bad guys". I especially love that part where the guy starts to state how worthless hitler's ideals were, and he says "hail hitler" before he takes his lugar and blasts himself in the head. They even show them rebelling against their own power hungry officers. It puts the German side into a different light.
Since modelling dedicated hand-thrown infantry/anti-tank weapons would be a whole damn lot of effort, I think having grenades do the occasional bit of damage to a tank is okay for the same of gameplay AND realism.
I know that quoting another game as source is not a good proof, but the Battlefront.com wargames have long been accepted as some of the most realistic and best researched out there. In their Combat Mission Barbarossa game, you will often see infantry try to get lucky with a grenade against a tank - and there will always be a few spots (exhaust, external fuel tanks, engine grill, suspension/drive wheels) where this may actually work.
I know that quoting another game as source is not a good proof, but the Battlefront.com wargames have long been accepted as some of the most realistic and best researched out there. In their Combat Mission Barbarossa game, you will often see infantry try to get lucky with a grenade against a tank - and there will always be a few spots (exhaust, external fuel tanks, engine grill, suspension/drive wheels) where this may actually work.
