Desert Rats (Africa mod)

[MustaschFarmer]

And also have you recoloured the German uniforms and perhaps the Panzer III?

 

[RandomPerson78642]

I gave the Germans the rolled sleeve hero uniform but didn't get to recoloring them yet. That's a low priority honestly.

 

[RandomPerson78642]

Dumpfires got the idea of making a Steam group, so I quickly whipped one up.

Check the first post, and feel free to join if you want!

 

[MustaschFarmer]

I still think the Springfield fits more in Brittish hands then the Mosin Nagant. Isnt it possible to make it bolt faster? And i rather wait for the Webley and use the Colt 1911 than using the Nagant revolver.

 

[RandomPerson78642]

The Mosin and Nagant are the Enfield and Webley, we just haven't edited the models yet.

 

[Lemonater47]

Yes they are simply pretending to be those weapons.

 

[MustaschFarmer]

The Mosin and Nagant are the Enfield and Webley, we just haven't edited the models yet.

Well the M1903 looks more like an Enfield except for the magazine. Would it be possible to mash the Mosin and M1903 and then change sights etc?

 

[RandomPerson78642]

It would be better to have a completely custom model, maybe even nick the one from HOTW.

But like I said we haven't gotten there yet.

 

[MustaschFarmer]

How hard is it to switch a reticle for a scope ingame? The Scoped Enfield has almost the same reticle as the springfield. Is it easy to change the reticle on the placeholder mosin?

 

[RandomPerson78642]

Pretty easy actually, it's just a texture.

 

[RandomPerson78642]

What do you guys think of these role loadouts?
Keep in mind there's going to be no ranks or levels or anything.

Rifleman
-Enfield/Kar98
-Webley/P38
-Grenades

Elite Rifleman
-Garand/G41
-Webley/P38
-Grenades

Assault
-Mafia Thompson/MkB with bayonet
-Webley/P38
-Grenades

Machine Gunner
-Bren/MG42
-Webley/P38

Engineer
-Sten/MP40
-Enfield/Kar98
-Webley/P38
-Satchels

Anti Tank (UK only)
-Boys AT Rifle
-Webley
-AT Grenades

Sniper
-Enfield Scoped/Kar98 Scoped
-Webley/P38
-Binoculars

Squad Leader
-Sten/MP40
-Enfield/Kar98
-Webley/P38
-Grenades
-Smoke Grenades

Commander
-Enfield/Kar98
-Webley/P38
-Binoculars

Giving the binoculars to the sniper was just a small gimmick I wanted to try out. If it doesn't work I'll remove it.


Also, trying out signatures for the first time here. Image is courtesy of UI artist Dumpfires.

 

[aaz777]

Assault
-Mafia Thompson/MkB with bayonet
-Webley/P38
-Grenades

whats the point of mkb42? What mafia thompson is, do you mean m1928 with drum? I think box mag should be there, may be drum and box mags somehow used together.

Elite Rifleman
-Garand/G41
-Webley/P38
-Grenades

I am sure there was no g41 or garand in africa

Machine Gunner
-Bren/MG42
-Webley/P38

Mg42 on pre1942 maps, without Mg34?

Engineer
-Sten/MP40
-Enfield/Kar98
-Webley/P38
-Satchels

was there sten in africa?

Anti Tank (UK only)
-Boys AT Rifle
-Webley
-AT Grenades

Why UK only? germans used pzb39 in africa, and it will be in IOM 1,15.

 

[RandomPerson78642]

Because there's no UK tanks. I do want to make a Crusader and Panzerschreck at one point, but that's in the very far future.
All we have right now is the Panzer III, which can easily knock out Bren carriers in substitute of an ATer.

And yeah, for this mod we're pretty much throwing historical accuracy out the window. We don't have the resources to make everything 110% accurate, so might as well have some fun while we're at it.

 

[aaz777]

Pzb39 can be very useful against bren carrier, which can be made in close future.
I am pretty much loosing interest if you will throw any kind of historical accuracy in the window, unless this mod will be compitable with IOM where historical accuracy will be fixed. I hope at least for the second variant

 

[RandomPerson78642]

Hmm. Well, we'll see.

We're not even at alpha yet, it's too early to be making such big decisions.

 

[aaz777]

We're not even at alpha yet, it's too early to be making such big decisions.

You were just making it.

 

[RandomPerson78642]

That doesn't mean it can't change.

I'll go with this loadout for now, maybe add a historical accuracy mode later, or redo it completely.

 

[Lemonater47]

Then why give the british an elite rifleman class lol. The reason the british never accepted any semi auto designs was the fact the enfield had 10 rounds and was the fastest firing bolt action at the time.

 

[aaz777]

Historical accuracy can also be different, you can stick to relatively historically accurate weapons and vehicles, but adjusted for gameplay, balance reasons (that doesnt mean 100% mirrored sides), or because of too few content on early stage.

But such nonsense as mkb42 in africa wil just make mod look completely unserious. Also i am not sure for 100%, but sten probably wasnt in africa, and its whole new weapon, how will it help balance or faster mod development?

 

[MustaschFarmer]

@Aaz777
Well a Sten is less powerful than a Thompson, but honestly Sten nor a Elite rifleman class is not needed really.