Exactly! Even if only one map were approved by the QB, it would still have achieved something by getting more players to try a new map.
Custom Maps - Qualification Board & Forced Download
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Not directly, but Yoshiro is constantly scanning the forums, and I know that someone sent them a link to this thread. They would already have posted if they had the intention to get into the melee. Anyway it's to their own discretion, I just hope that they took the time to consider the idea. Also, there are probably many other factors they have to consider in the equation, that we can't even think of. So we'll see what happens! The bottom line is, we need more content to be integrated, and we need it more to happen more regularly. If they can achieve that one way or another,the community will benefit from it.
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Yes. We do. We also need this.
In order of importance, here is what we need:
1) Map Contest winners
2) This.
3) Tanks
4) Jetpacks
Totally agree..And if TWI are not aware of this thread I will ask them to take a look and give some feedback..
They may say thanks but no thanks or they may love the idea..If you don't ask you don't get..
TWI are definitely aware of this thread. It has dominated the front page for a week now and its one of the largest active discussions on this board.
The fact that they have said nothing says something. Perhaps I am being cynical. Nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong on this one.
The fact that they have said nothing says something. Perhaps I am being cynical. Nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong on this one.
True..... but they haven't the manpower or resources now to care for problems encountered every day in both RS and RO2.
Bringing out the remainder of the map contest winners is long overdue.
Bringing out the remainder of the map contest winners is long overdue.
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I'm supportive of anything that will get the public on these custom maps. I'm doing as much as I can right now independently of any other process. But as others have pointed out: Any role that TWI is expected to play had better mesh into their business model without excessive time or cost expenditure. They're shedding enough blood just dealing with the brutal US and state taxes & business regulations without anything else added.
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Well IF TWI did QB custom maps, perhaps we could get proper loading screens, or at least the map's name...
Player1 "Hey, the server is loading a custom map! Any idea what it is?"
..map loads
Player1 via chat "hey what map is this?"
Player1 ditches server whenever a custom map begins to load.
Player1 "Hey, the server is loading a custom map! Any idea what it is?"
..map loads
Player1 via chat "hey what map is this?"
Player1 ditches server whenever a custom map begins to load.
Twrecks, all TWI need do is provide the necessary tools for the mappers to create and provide the loading screens. We have no trouble with the custom maps otherwise. Our players get the maps from our redirect and play them.
Jump in our server or forums and ask them. All these opines and yet the users themselves are not being queried.
Why this big campaign by certain server admins to get this added layer of useless bureaucracy put in place?
A few reasons;
- shabby redirect servers
- added cost to server admins they are seeking to eliminate
- certain admins clamoring for added prestige and titles
For example;
- eliminating Re-Cooking with every program update
- fixing a flakey game browser
- fixing WebAdmin
- in-game rubber banding
- map optimization
- releasing the remainder of the Map Contest Winners
- adding fresh content maps, vehicles, etc..
It's not like there are a hundred custom maps available. I think at this point maybe 10 that actual work with the current RO2/RS. I'm not including the ones that went from day to night and night to day.
This can all be resolved because not all servers even load up customs or even keep them up to date, the 5-10 servers that do mostly empty.
Our server including a couple who have posted in this thread ALWAYS have their servers updated immediately upon a custom release. This means you don't need Workshop, you don't need to download the map manually and these servers have fast redirects.
The users just need to realize upon an error while loading a custom or when they know one has been updated they need to clear out their caches so they get the latest working version.
If you pick a server (such as ours) it has RO2, RS, and the Working Customs - if you always play on a given server you'll never run into any issues. Having a server you always play on will always keep you updated with customs and you won't have conflicts because you aren't going from a server that has an old custom vs a updated custom on another server.
Everyone has what they like - a lot ONLY play RS now - others still ONLY play RO2 then others are more adventurous and play ALL or Customs. There are servers out there for this. Create a community with one of these servers. You then know what you are getting ALWAYS by the server you choose to make your own. This is why certain servers are ALWAYS full or close, because the people keep returning and that's the only server they play on for multiple reasons. A lot of these servers exist and are just sitting there empty or only have 1-5 players playing on them on a regular basis.
There were 504 servers out there today, 133 had people even playing on them, only 33 in the US as an example. This covers servers with anything from RO2 ONLY, RS ONLY, RO2\Customs, RO2\RS ONLY, RO2\RS\Customs.
http://www.gameserverdirectory.com/search.php
We as server admins try our best at keeping our server fully updated, working, and adding new content when available but if these servers are not being used they simply go to waste. Pick our server, Mikes server, Butches, and the others that are constantly keeping them up to the day (updated), sorry forget who all the server admins are that posted here. I know all of you only pick servers that have people playing regardless of what content it is - you are just looking for the action and this is how all multiplayer games work.
I always say it you built it they will come. They are out there you just need 10 people in any given server and whatever that server has it will fill up then you just keep returning and a community is built and you'll always know what you are getting by the players, skill, and last but not least the content.
This can all be resolved because not all servers even load up customs or even keep them up to date, the 5-10 servers that do mostly empty.
Our server including a couple who have posted in this thread ALWAYS have their servers updated immediately upon a custom release. This means you don't need Workshop, you don't need to download the map manually and these servers have fast redirects.
The users just need to realize upon an error while loading a custom or when they know one has been updated they need to clear out their caches so they get the latest working version.
If you pick a server (such as ours) it has RO2, RS, and the Working Customs - if you always play on a given server you'll never run into any issues. Having a server you always play on will always keep you updated with customs and you won't have conflicts because you aren't going from a server that has an old custom vs a updated custom on another server.
Everyone has what they like - a lot ONLY play RS now - others still ONLY play RO2 then others are more adventurous and play ALL or Customs. There are servers out there for this. Create a community with one of these servers. You then know what you are getting ALWAYS by the server you choose to make your own. This is why certain servers are ALWAYS full or close, because the people keep returning and that's the only server they play on for multiple reasons. A lot of these servers exist and are just sitting there empty or only have 1-5 players playing on them on a regular basis.
There were 504 servers out there today, 133 had people even playing on them, only 33 in the US as an example. This covers servers with anything from RO2 ONLY, RS ONLY, RO2\Customs, RO2\RS ONLY, RO2\RS\Customs.
http://www.gameserverdirectory.com/search.php
We as server admins try our best at keeping our server fully updated, working, and adding new content when available but if these servers are not being used they simply go to waste. Pick our server, Mikes server, Butches, and the others that are constantly keeping them up to the day (updated), sorry forget who all the server admins are that posted here. I know all of you only pick servers that have people playing regardless of what content it is - you are just looking for the action and this is how all multiplayer games work.
I always say it you built it they will come. They are out there you just need 10 people in any given server and whatever that server has it will fill up then you just keep returning and a community is built and you'll always know what you are getting by the players, skill, and last but not least the content.
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This is what this proposal is trying to do, get more content out there to the majority of users.
This proposal does not affect a servers ability to run any custom map of their choosing.
What added cost exactly? It doesn't cost servers anything at all to have more maps ingame.
Every server would get the same maps approved by the QB, there is no titles or prestige. If anything, the servers running custom maps now like to boast.
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Your questions alone prove you know nothing of what you speak. Also I see how you conveniently leave out most of what you reply to. (psst; High Quality Redirect Servers are NOT FREE neither are Servers for the game.)
Well spoken. I might add, those of us that provide high quality, well maintained RO2/RS Servers and ReDirect Servers get the job done without SWS or any other senseless, useless bureaucratic layers of nonsense.
End of story.
Its like playing chess with a pigeon. High quality redirect servers do cost money (duh) but this proposal doesn't restrict your use of them at all. This proposal enable more people to play community created maps. Because from what I can see, about 5% of RO2 players actually play regularly on these "high quality custom map" servers, of which there are under 50 and barely any of them are populated. You can go providing these redirects and custom maps, all this proposal aims to do is get more people playing community created maps.
Those maps either ARE or will BE on those servers that are properly managed and maintained - you really haven't a clue.
Oh dear...
i.e the few ones currently running custom maps now.
Without the QB this stays the same. With the QB if the map is accepted (it most likely will be) all servers will play because nearly everyone uses the default map rotation.
Lets simplify that further so I am sure you will understand.
The current situation:
Few servers play custom maps, the ones that do are not populated often.
Lets pick a custom map and name it custom map A.
Withe the proposal:
Lets assume custom map A is accepted by the QB.
Custom map A is now a forced download for everyone (about 100mb)
Custom map A now gets played on the majority of servers, not the minority.
More community maps, yet still the servers that play the most custom maps - the "high quality custom map servers" a. still have their quality redirects and b. still have a large variety of custom maps to play on