crosshair of tankgun

[The Beast (nl)]

Am I the only with this problem,

It happens me often that the crosshairs of the tankmaingun
aren`t on the right place. Just a moment ago i have to aim
right of the enemy tank to hit.

 

[SgtAlex86]

its brobably because ur sitting on the side not behind the gun
could be wrong though... the difference is so small it wont affect long shots only short range

 

[FBOTheLiuetenant]

This happens to a small extent all the time, as explained in the post above. But also something to look out for, was your tank's gun damaged at all? It is usually hard to see on the tank icon, since it is yellow and small, but it is possible that the barrel was damaged in some way. This causes the shots to go wildly off target.

 

[The Beast (nl)]

No that isn`t the case. I was undamaged.

Then i have to aim a metre next to the target. And the
target is about 400m away.

But it is strange, it isn`t all the time.

 

[FBOTheLiuetenant]

Hmm, there have been times where my shots go widly off target for no obvious reason. What you are discribing though, I have not experienced. Dont know what to say.

 

[The Beast (nl)]

Next time i make a screenshot.

 

[u-s-e-r]

I think I have had this as well, the shots go way off where they should go.

 

[Sufyan]

I have had this happen a handful of times with the T34. No damage, just switching seats and whatnot, suddenly all shots go far to the left of the crosshair. I have had many odd things happen while tanking (which I do often), so I don't think this is a feature but rather an interface bug, ie the "camera" ends up positioned wrong when switching to the gun view, perhaps because of the gunner AI being a bit enthusiastic cranking the handle. Next time I will try and rectify this by linking the gun to the periscope.

 

[The_Golden_Peanut]

No that isn`t the case. I was undamaged.

Then i have to aim a metre next to the target. And the
target is about 400m away.

But it is strange, it isn`t all the time.

I have tried it too! undamaged ...!

 

[Unterscharfuhrer]

I have this problem too but only when my ping goes up!

 

[Dr.Atkins]

I've noticed this as well.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=65420

it is nr. 30

 

[Mormegil]

When it comes to the shot hitting more than 5 meters off, that is probably a bug. This seems to happen sometimes when your on a slope. If you can figure out where exactly this is happening, post it in the bug section.

If you're hitting about 1 meter off, that's not too unexpected, as the gunsight is offset from the cannon bore by almost a meter, depending on the tank. It's even worse for the coaxial MG, as it's on the other side of the cannon.

 

[FFLaguna]

When it comes to the shot hitting more than 5 meters off, that is probably a bug. This seems to happen sometimes when your on a slope. If you can figure out where exactly this is happening, post it in the bug section.

If you're hitting about 1 meter off, that's not too unexpected, as the gunsight is offset from the cannon bore by almost a meter, depending on the tank. It's even worse for the coaxial MG, as it's on the other side of the cannon.

This is not the problem at all. The problem is the tank shells hitting WILDLY off target from where the sights are pointing. Sometimes they are hitting so far off target, I can't see the explosions in the tank viewfinder sights! And once it happens, there's no fixing it until you respawn.

 

[Mendeth]

When it comes to the shot hitting more than 5 meters off, that is probably a bug. This seems to happen sometimes when your on a slope. If you can figure out where exactly this is happening, post it in the bug section.

The effect of the slope would tally with my experience last night, I ended up off-target by about 2-3m at a range of around 500m (in a T-34)

 

[FFLaguna]

May we have this thread moved to Bug Reports, please? It's not related to the tank boresight being slightly offcenter from the sights. It's a different bug where sometimes the tank cannon will be wildly off target at all distances. I haven't been able to notice a cause yet, but once it happens it will not go away until you die and respawn in a new tank.

 

[Mormegil]

This is not the problem at all. The problem is the tank shells hitting WILDLY off target from where the sights are pointing. Sometimes they are hitting so far off target, I can't see the explosions in the tank viewfinder sights! And once it happens, there's no fixing it until you respawn.

I know about that bug, but to be fair, I'm talking about the OP's issue:

No that isn`t the case. I was undamaged.

Then i have to aim a metre next to the target. And the
target is about 400m away.

But it is strange, it isn`t all the time.

1 meter off.

 

[FFLaguna]

I know about that bug, but to be fair, I'm talking about the OP's issue:

1 meter off.

Dang, guess I was off my mark.

 

[Maj.Faux-Pas]

I think this is not a bug, it's feature, an accurate simulation of armored gunnery.
However, if your shots are landing to the left of the crosshair, then it's a bug. It should be to the right.

How To Aim a Panzer:
1) Offset: Your sight is to the side of the gun, and aims parallel to it. Make two dotted lines, one from the sight and one from the gun. They should be exactly the same distance apart at point A (your tank) and point B (enemy tank). This is by design and the game replicates it accurately.

Note: Range is vertical only, not horizontal. Range alteration does not aim the barrel left or right to focus on the target like the human eyes do.

2) Sights/Optics: Panzermanner were trained to aim using the sights to account for the offset. The target reticle includes triangles which can be used in estimation of offset as well as target speed.

3) The triangles should point at the ground, and the tip of the main triangle should be pointed at the bottom left of the target: the tread.

4) If you figure the above correctly, then the only variable is range. If you get the range correct, you will hit every time. You have to adjust the range manually using lean left/lean right keys. Close range is 4 (400m), medium range is 6, long range is 8. This is on Gumrak... the max distance on Gumrak is about 1000m, but it's very hard to hit anything moving--or partially behind cover--at that range, at least without wasting ammo.

5) Ballistics and tank roll: if you are on a slope, tilted sideways, your shots will follow a parabolic path perpendicular to the horizon, not perpendicular to your sights.

Here is a link to the Tigerfibel, the Tiger manual. The optics and principles are similar but not exactly the same. The offset is much more wide in the Tiger. However, notice that if your target is a tank, he has a gun and a gunner just like you. If you aim for the gun, you would probably hit the gunner instead....

Gunnery section starts at image #65 on the bottom, page 65 of the manual:

http://www.alanhamby.com/tigerfibel.shtml#

This target has been sighted properly. The range was accurate. The shot resulted in a direct hit to the front of the target: