Not joking, I am serious.
Balancing? Well, a slow reload and a damage like AK47 or M4 is enough. We can even lower the damage to bullpup like if you wish. Is bullpup overpowered EVEN with an infinite magazine?
Balancing it is much easier than M99.
Commando balancing thread (a bit complex)
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Not joking, I am serious.
Balancing? Well, a slow reload and a damage like AK47 or M4 is enough. We can even lower the damage to bullpup like if you wish. Is bullpup overpowered EVEN with an infinite magazine?
Balancing it is much easier than M99.
I havn't play L4D2. I have ever played COD5 zombie mode.
COD5 MG42/M1919 is strong because of , besides BIG MAG, it also owns STRONG DAMAGE. With both stats it is overpowered in KF. But KF doesn't need to take both special attributes.
Big mag only, moderate RoF, and s moderate/small damage. DPS without reloading is not as high as SCAR (DPS=Rof*DPH this LMG owns nearly the same Rof with SCAR but lower DPH). The only strong point of this LMG or SAW is that it can sustain fire for a longer time than assault rifles. And its reloading is SLOW. YOU TELL ME HOW IT CAN EVER BE LISTED AS "OVERPOWER"?
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What? I don't even have a clue what you are trying to say.
First, are you talking about the fal when you say a slower reload and ak like damage?
Second, the bullpup is weak, therefore it is NOT overpowered, adding an "infinite magazine" would make it overpowered(which is obviously impossible anyway).
Third, balancing the m99 is extremely simple.
Oh, and i said that commando IS************* balanced, so why would you suggest these things when i disagree with any changes to commando in the first place.
Sir, the thread consists of 4 parts. The #1 part is about bullpup, #2 about SCAR, #3 about FN FAL. Only the part #4 is about LMG/SAW.
"First, are you talking about the fal when you say a slower reload and ak like damage?"
No sir. I am talking about the stats of the new LMG. A slow reload and ak-like damage---- for the LMG.
"Second, the bullpup is weak, therefore it is NOT overpowered, adding an "infinite magazine" would make it overpowered(which is obviously impossible anyway)."
You can try this on HOE. I just cannot hold the huge wave of the zeds with this weapon. It is not underpowered because it's cheap. Not the something like"weak therefore not overpowered".
Well, commando is an assault rifle perk, not an LMG perk. The bullpup is not meant for anything above maybe hard. Why you would even buy it on suicidal or HoE is beyond me. Also, i respect your opinion and imagination but KF really doesn't need more weapons or perks, it is perfect the way it is. I would really like to see TWI start fixing the many bugs and glitches in the game before adding to them. Any true fan and supporter of KF would agree with me.
LOL. Just use a bit of imagination. Commando IS an assault rifle perk, yes. What else fires assault rifle cartridges? That's squad automatic weapon, or SAW.
There is a concept known as "derivatives". Assault rifles and SAW are heavily related. They fire the same rounds (mostly), have similar structures. There is no strange that a master of assault rifles master a LMG.
LOL. Just use a bit of imagination. Commando IS an assault rifle perk, yes. What else fires assault rifle cartridges? That's squad automatic weapon, or SAW.
There is a concept known as "derivatives". Assault rifles and SAW are heavily related. They fire the same rounds (mostly), have similar structures. There is no strange that a master of assault rifles master a LMG.
I'd have to disagree. Assault rifles and LMG's are very different weapons. They both serve different purposes. Assault rifles are usually more versatile weapons and can be used in almost any situation. LMG's are mainly for cover fire or to rain hell on a certain location for a long period of time(at great ranges as well).
Also, i wouldn't consider the "SAW" an assault rifle or anything even remotely close to one.
yes, i think we'd all love to have an LMG, but i dont see one being added without a new perk. LMG's weigh almost 3 times as much as your basic assault rifle, which would put them at about 15-17 blocks in-game.
I'd have to disagree. Assault rifles and LMG's are very different weapons. They both serve different purposes. Assault rifles are usually more versatile weapons and can be used in almost any situation. LMG's are mainly for cover fire or to rain hell on a certain location for a long period of time(at great ranges as well).
Also, i wouldn't consider the "SAW" an assault rifle or anything even remotely close to one.
yes, i think we'd all love to have an LMG, but i dont see one being added without a new perk. LMG's weigh almost 3 times as much as your basic assault rifle, which would put them at about 15-17 blocks in-game.
The weight? OK.
HK23 weights 8.75kg. AK weights 4.8kg. AK in the game weights 6. So, if compared with the same ratio- 11 blocks of weight in game. To make it pairable with the changed bullpup-- 10 blocks is OK.
Is that still too heavy for you lady? Try the chinese product QBB95. It is 4kg when loaded with 75-rds drum magazine. I can say nothing more if you complain about the weight again.
PS: No one forces you to use the heavy M249 or M240...
you just want to be able to rambo everything... that's what this thread is about
perks must be balanced, so I suggest you shut your mouth.
Lmao, calling me a lady? I don't believe i was complaining about weight, simply stating facts. You mentioned the SAW yourself, so all i did was use that exact gun to give an example of the weight. Yes, there are much lighter LMG's but honestly, do they even compare to the m249, m60, etc.?
Rambo? I never do that!
PS: You think you can go rambo with the LMG? That's stupid! The LMG has weaker output per second but maintains a longer time before reloading. If SC/FP appears, even with this LMG, you can be pounded to giblets.
So what's the point then? You just want to go longer in between reloads? That's hardly a good reason to add a new weapon.
Yeah, commando is like...perfect as is.
I'd love a LMG for him but lets not change anything big. Give him the M203.
I'd love a LMG for him but lets not change anything big. Give him the M203.
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The point is sustain firing. If a big group of zeds arrives, SCAR needs to reload at least once to take all them out. With this LMG? No trouble. You have enough rounds to take them out before reloading.
However, if against big ones, this LMG is not as good as SCAR because its DPH is lower than SCAR.
I'm still not seeing the point. Why not just reload the SCAR once then? SCAR reloads plenty fast already with the commando bonus. Or else bring another rifle and switch guns once SCAR is empty? Or even better aim properly with sight and semi auto and shave all their heads off with one magazine? At max the game can only rush you with 32 specimen at once and you have 25 rounds in the SCAR. 25 is plenty to cut down all the small stuff to allow your team to deal with Siren and above.
alll this guy ever does is complain about other perks being OP while demanding that commando be buffed
YAY! We agree!! Commando is great as-is!Don't touch MY Commando or i'll break your neck.