Bullet Penetration..meh

[Goten]

There are big problems with bullet penetration.

Not only they go through some walls they shouldn't but they go through 3-4 walls ! This is ridiculous !

I took some footage for the mp40 and ppsh, which have (or should have) the lowest power in the game (except pistols of course).

Check the fun in Paper House (sorry for how dark it is, youtube's problem ...)

[url]http://youtu.be/oBjWWcsAxAk[/URL]

[url]http://youtu.be/t4pbZCLQG7c[/URL]

 

[Jippofin]

Bullet penetration against dryboard:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm[/URL]

Bullet pentration against sand:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot7.htm[/URL]

Bullet penetration against insulated walls:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot12.htm[/URL]

 

[grothesj2]

Bullet penetration against dryboard:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm[/URL]

Bullet pentration against sand:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot7.htm[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot7.htm[/URL]

Bullet penetration against insulated walls:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot12.htm[/URL]

Good stuff. People have been too conditioned by Hollywood to underestimate how much stuff a bullet can penetrate. Heck even arrows. Evey deer I ever shot my arrow went straight through, in one side and right out the other.

 

[Inuki]

People have been too conditioned to what is fun and what isn't...

Not being able to take cover anywhere? That's actually fun. People are morons. Why should you be safe behind anything ever?

 

[FBOTheLiuetenant]

The problem is that SMGs are penetrating stuff ingame that they shouldn't, actually it seems as though they will penetrate anything a rifle will ingame, which is just terrible.

This. There are still issues with certain walls being too easy for pistol rounds to penetrate. A few specific walls on Barracks which have a brick side to them can easily be penetrated by either SMG. This shouldn't happen, period. The only issue I have with penetration are the times is doesn't work as intended, when it does work perfectly it adds another layer of depth to firefights.

http://youtu.be/dKhMOfaYwvE

http://youtu.be/w22M1DAQ59I

Check out these two videos for a good look at penetration against brick, cinder block, plywood, and sheet-rock.

 

[grothesj2]

People have been too conditioned to what is fun and what isn't...

Not being able to take cover anywhere? That's actually fun. People are morons. Why should you be safe behind anything ever?

Plenty of stuff that is safe to hide behind and be safe, and the safest of all is not being seen. Gamers that don't want realism have plenty of other fake games they can run to.

 

[Gudenrath]

Bullet penetration is one of the coolest features of RO2. I can't believe the whining about it in this thread.

And no, the rifle or smg won't penetrate brick walls in the game. I have tried and it doesn't work. It does however penetrate plaster and wood walls, which is what some of the buildings in for example Apartments are made of.

 

[Josef Nader]

People have been too conditioned to what is fun and what isn't...

Not being able to take cover anywhere? That's actually fun. People are morons. Why should you be safe behind anything ever?

Again, learn to spot the difference between a safe and unsafe wall.

Interior walls protect you from bullets about as well as armor made out of steak protects you from tigers. You want solid cover? Get behind a car. That's some solid cover. Try stone or cement walls. Those work well too. Bricks make excellent cover. Sandbags also rank better than most places in-game.

DO NOT rely on flimsy wooden fences, interior walls, plaster, siding, or anything that you could put your boot through with minimal injury. It won't save you. Period.

 

[Jippofin]

There are some problems with penetration, but interior walls are not one of those.

IRL car offers next to no Ballistic protection. Only parts like engine, gear box, etc. may stop a bullet.

Another problem is railings as seen in the station walking bridge or grain elevator stairs which stop bullets.

 

[Josef Nader]

There are some problems with penetration, but interior walls are not one of those.

IRL car offers next to no Ballistic protection. Only parts like engine, gear box, etc. may stop a bullet.

Another problem is railings as seen in the station walking bridge or grain elevator stairs which stop bullets.

An engine block is one of the most solid things you can hide behind in a firefight, or so I've heard. There's an awful lot of solid metal in there capable of stopping a bullet.

 

[Cpt-Praxius]

they played with big boy rounds in wwII 30-06, 8x57mm IS, 7.62

 

[DesiQ]

Just like to point out that you're better off behind Concrete Walls and Pillars or Sandbags.... anything beyond those two things can and will have bullets flying through them and hitting you.

The guy you were replying to (and me, in a previous post) mentioned cars as good things to hide behind because in RO2, bullets don't penetrate any metal regardless of thickness. Not hedgehogs, not cars, not even staircase railings.

And Panzerschokolade must have a very dim opinion of his forefathers to assume that they wouldn't consider shooting through things to kill people on the other side. Those people were a lot more resourceful than a lot of people these days.

 

[Unus Offa Unus Nex]

Well on the map Barracks, the middle building (can't remember its' name) features two layered brick exterior walls, and both the MP40 & PPSh will go through this ingame.

The bricks look like std. european solid bricks, with the dimensions 24

 

[grothesj2]

Well on the map Barracks, the middle building (can't remember its' name) features two layered brick exterior walls, and both the MP40 & PPSh will go through this ingame.

The bricks look like std. european solid bricks, with the dimensions 24

 

[The_Cook]

um..


no.




Away from what you call reality, its just a decay of proper gameplay. I don't know if you still get it but their is just one reality and its a pipe dream to argue such design with the fact that the mauser IS or the 30-06 springfield might be able to penetrate brick walls in real life. I bet their wasn't anyone in WW2 who really thought to be successful shooting at people behind solid walls with small arms except a panzerbuchse or sth. Just because they wouldn't be. But this actually happens in HoS so where's your reality club, mate?

I own a rem700 chambered in 30-06 I do penetrate through brickwalls and engine blocks using 200grn solid brass bullets cruising @ around 2800fps. I've reloaded WWII black tips in my brass and that stuff goes through stuff like butter. BUY a rifle, educate yourself, talk from experience, not your imagination.

pistol rounds such as those found in smg's like the mp40, and ppsh will be stopped by brick. mind you they will crack the hell out of it. they will have alittle trouble going through plaster walls and wood, but not that much.

Regular copper jacketed flatnose 180grn 30-06 doing 2700fps goes through brick like butter, and will penetrate steel up to about 1/2" thick. I've had the pleasure of shooting clean through acetylene tanks with this round.

 

[Jippofin]

An engine block is one of the most solid things you can hide behind in a firefight, or so I've heard. There's an awful lot of solid metal in there capable of stopping a bullet.

That's what I said. There are some parts in that'd stop a bullet, but mostly cars are like paper in terms of protection.

 

[Colt .45 killer]

Well on the map Barracks, the middle building (can't remember its' name) features two layered brick exterior walls, and both the MP40 & PPSh will go through this ingame.

The bricks look like std. european solid bricks, with the dimensions 24

 

[The_Cook]

Bullet penetration against dryboard:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot1.htm[/URL]

Bullet pentration against sand:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot7.htm[/URL]

Bullet penetration against insulated walls:
[url]http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot12.htm[/URL]

great find. Thank you very much

 

[The_Cook]

That's what I said. There are some parts in that'd stop a bullet, but mostly cars are like paper in terms of protection.

if using a car for protection make sure it was built before 1970 and when you do use it for cover, hide behind one of the front wheels. With a solid rim and an engine block on the other side of you you're usually good.

 

[Josef Nader]

if using a car for protection make sure it was built before 1970 and when you do use it for cover, hide behind one of the front wheels. With a solid rim and an engine block on the other side of you you're usually good.

>Checks the dates for WWII...