Bolt action rifle (I know, but please read)

[Unit-05]

Alright, this has probably been asked or suggested many times befor, but the reason I ask of this is because I need somthing in between the lever action rifle, and the crossbow.

The crossbow does fine agenst most units, I have no problem with it in its damage, its ammunition is the problem, 40 rounds is not cutting it, dispite the fact its 'Rail Gun' ability.

And the lever action rifle has a generous ammount of ammo, but the damage if gives out is limited.

In prolonged conflicts such as servers that hold up to 30 players, I find my self getting a lever action rifle, two hand cannons, and two 9mm pistols, just so i can keep in with the fight.

while the bolt action rifle (It can be any sort of bolt action, as long as it is not ugly) is my idea to fit the inbetween of damage and ammo.

And while hand cannons do nicely in damage, their ammo is even MORE limited in between the two weapons, they are pistols, they are ment to be used as side arms not as your main armament

OR... there can be some alternatives to solve this besides making a new weapon entirely, such as increasing the damage of lever action rifles, or increasing the ammo of crossbows.

While these would be Very helpful ideas (In my case anyways), It is up to you, and the administrators of the game to really decide this,

give me feed back if this is a good idea,

or if this is just a waste of time all together, feel free to tell me to shut my mouth and continue playing what I have

 

[tip_for_everyone]

I like a BAR like this one which provides

Attributes:
- Much more damage. (higer than Xbow)
- Extreme heavy. SShooter only can carry it and ONE 9mm pistol with slow moving speed
- 10 bullets for each clip, longer reloading time.
- Penetration = Xbow's
- Cost = L.A.W (1500)

Model:
L96 recommended !

Animation:
by Tripwire Interactive

That's enough ! It seems to be balanced

 

[gusone]

It would be nice to have a rifle with a bit more welly for outdoor maps. It would be useless in small urban maps. But that would be good. I like choosing weapons depending on the type of map. An iron sight would be fine as I don't think we need another telescopic sight. How about a high powered hunting rifle? Sticks with the outdoor map feel. It would also make a great sound too.

 

[rckrdude]

Ammo really does become a problem in large servers, particularly if its on a hard (forget suicidal) and a most of the people die earlier in the wave. But assuming this is on one of the later waves, you're better off buying a crossbow, single handcannon and single 9mm.

You will be able to kill a lot more specimens and also actually be able to kill scrakes if you use the crossbow instead of the lever action (which is pretty useless in later waves). Using dual hcs or 9mms does NOT increase you're ammo capacity. You're just increasing you're rate of fire but have to sacrifice accuracy. This burns through ammo a LOT quicker than if you use single pistols. So yea get those weapons, aim carefully with everything and remember that the 9mm is a GREAT weapon. You should be ok.

Also keep in mind that this game was not made with 6+ player servers in mind. I rarely ever get ammo troubles as a sharpshooter on 6 player servers even on suicidal. I don't think a new weapon in between LAR and HC is necessary. Also increasing ammo or power would make the game easier

 

[Outsider]

Well, in general way, I think there should be a heavy kind of weapon for each perk. And only this perk could buy and use this weapon. These weapons would be heavy and using it would slow down the player. And they would be very expensive.
I explain this : when we survive through many waves, we can have a very large amount of money. Yes, we can give it to others when they die. But I'd also like to use it in another way.
The LAW may be used by every perk, or become specialized in the Support Specialist Perk.
It could be :
- a FN Minimi for the commando
- a Barrett M82 for the Sharp shooter
- etc etc

All of them wouldn't make invincible cause of high time or reloading, or danger in the use, or anything else, so that we wouldn't buy it everytime we could.

 

[Prostagmo]

well, when i started to play KF some time ago, i feeled instantly that the sharpshooter weapons where a little "unsexy" xD, come on dudes, lever rifles are a little too old, and the crossbow its a little slow if you think there's mass of monsters coming for 'ya. Some time had past, since that, and i learned those weapons are fine if you use them well... but, duuuude, a k98 mauser rifle (no sniper scope, just ironsight) would be a sexy weapon, or maybe (to skip the WW2 theme) a lee enfield rifle.

The lee enfield, would be mix between lever and crossbow: a little slow to fire because of the bolt action, no "railgun" effect, and damage close to Xbow but lesser.

 

[omarfw]

You can't make weapons that make other weapons obsolete. That will make for bad gameplay. The LAR can only be replaced with a new rifle.

 

[Nanostrike]

You can't make weapons that make other weapons obsolete. That will make for bad gameplay. The LAR can only be replaced with a new rifle.

The LAR needs a big brother. Look at the Bullpup/AK relationship. It in no way makes the Bullpup obselete, while still having the AK be significantly more expensive and have drawbacks of it's own.

IF there's to be a scoped Rifle, I want Tripwire to do the careful balancing act they did with the AK/Bullpup on that.

 

[MotionLotion]

The LAR needs a big brother. Look at the Bullpup/AK relationship. It in no way makes the Bullpup obselete, while still having the AK be significantly more expensive and have drawbacks of it's own.

IF there's to be a scoped Rifle, I want Tripwire to do the careful balancing act they did with the AK/Bullpup on that.

well put

 

[Ihmhi]

Seconding the Barrett.

Look, as far as sniper rifles go, that's about as ultimate as it gets.

I just hope they don't do the cheap thing and make it the bolt action like so many games do. Balance it by making it heavier than the crossbow and giving it a ton of recoil, I don't care. I wants a Barrett!

 

[-[SiN]-bswearer]

YES the addition of a scoped BAR would be excellent just like the AK/Bullpup situation. only difference is that sharpshooters wouldn't be able to carry two primary "sniper rifles" due to weight issues, but a crossbow/scoped BAR and LAR/duel handcannons would make for some great combos.

 

[omarfw]

barret would be good imo

 

[Soanos]

barret would be good imo

Let's stay with the standard caliber weapons, please?

 

[omarfw]

Doesn't have to be a realistic barret. A severly toned down one. but lets face it they have to add a sniper rifle at some point and it might as well be a barret model.

Either that or a grenade launcher. They seriously need more explosive weapons.

 

[Outsider]

About the Barrett, thanks to its powerful ammunition, it would have the same effect that the crossbow : it would pierce through every body until it goes in a wall. But it would be semi-automatic with a clip of 10 bullets.

 

[omarfw]

eh, it would be realistic and true to the real barret for it to have infinite penetration like the crossbow yes but i dont think we need another weapon with that feature or noone will use the crossbow anymore.

And it cant have a very fast firing speed or nobody will use the LAR anymore.

 

[w00tm0ng3r]

About the Barrett, thanks to its powerful ammunition, it would have the same effect that the crossbow : it would pierce through every body until it goes in a wall. But it would be semi-automatic with a clip of 10 bullets.

Well in this game shotguns penetrate stuff but things like desert eagles and AKs don't so...

 

[Caspy]

Enfield SMLE

That's all I'm gonna say

 

[Marls]

I find the Lever action rifle ideal for my Beserkers support weapon. Even in Suicidal, you can 1 hit those ****en crawlers that are really hard to melee when at your feet (or you start bouncing on them and get ****ed up). Plus you dont get caught having to wait for a weapon to *finish reloading* while being chopped up by gorefests unable to switch back to melee. Seeing you reload 1 round at a time its harder to get caught out by tripwires reload deathtrap.

 

[Zeptorem]

I like a BAR like this one which provides

Attributes:
- Much more damage. (higer than Xbow)
- Extreme heavy. SShooter only can carry it and ONE 9mm pistol with slow moving speed
- 10 bullets for each clip, longer reloading time.
- Penetration = Xbow's
- Cost = L.A.W (1500)

Model:
L96 recommended !

Animation:
by Tripwire Interactive

That's enough ! It seems to be balanced

Oh god my improper dictionometer is off the charts.