bayonets are unlocks?!?!!?!

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skittlesareyum47

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Cause they are the only Keys on My Keyboard that work......!!!!!!!...( Monty python will be making a Film about this No doubt......!!!!!! ?) whoops where did the ? come from;)...When the game is release, I will support You....until then.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A respectable position, but points above still apply.
 
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Imo if bayonets need to be unlocked for regular rifles etc that would be a really... awkward decision imho.
Afaik the bayonet is standard issue right? Why would anyone have to work to 'earn' a bayonet? It's like you have to buy your own ammo, it just doesnt make any sense.
 
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TR00P3R_C said:
Sources:

'Barbarossa' - A. Clark

'Stalingrad' - A. Beevor

'World at War' - BBC Tv series
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Sorry but LOL.

Barbarossa was based on the testimony of captured nazis trying to justify to their US captors that they had to do what they did cos they were fighting subhumans who send their own men into battle unarmed. Come the cold war no-one was particularly inclined in the west to check the veracity of this stuff.

Beevor's research includes such gems as saying that one division commander practiced decimation (in the strict Roman sense) without quoting any sources at all.

World at War used Barbarossa as source material IIRC.

A moment's thought would make you realise the absolute pointlessness of forcing men to charge into battle without guns... and would also make you realise why it was in the captured nazis' interests to portray the red army as some kind of orc horde. The Soviet regime was evil in many ways but it was not stupid nor particularly suicidal.

Check a proper western historian of soviet military history's take on the events... someone like Col. David Glantz.. and you will see examples of brutality and incompetence alongside heroism and skill.. but nothing like the travesty "Enemy at the gates".
 
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I can see it being a little bit less dislikeable if bayonets can be unlocked easily in the average player's first ever game... But I dunno, did it even say that this applies to bolties? I can understand having to unlock them from the AVT40 or Mkb42, but not the standard issue weapons.
 
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skittlesareyum47 said:
A respectable position, but points above still apply.
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In a Way they Do...and Do Not...remember when you was A Virgin....Sex was this mysterious thing that was both exciting and frightening at the same time...It was only after "You popped yer cherry....Got Laid....did the horizontal Mumba", that You got a full understanding of what is involved.....RO:Hos is no different....Except You won't have to wear a Condom to play it......Unless one is provided with the CE release of course;):D
 
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so the one gun two soldiers thing is a lie?! HOW DARE HOLLYWOOD LIE TO ME

anyways... unlocks are alright
adds a little sense of achievement when playing, and a bayo will probably be achieved quite early on

inb4 realism invasion of this thread
 
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Nestor Makhno said:
Sorry but LOL.

Barbarossa was based on the testimony of captured nazis trying to justify to their US captors that they had to do what they did cos they were fighting subhumans who send their own men into battle unarmed. Come the cold war no-one was particularly inclined in the west to check the veracity of this stuff.

Beevor's research includes such gems as saying that one division commander practiced decimation (in the strict Roman sense) without quoting any sources at all.

World at War used Barbarossa as source material IIRC.

A moment's thought would make you realise the absolute pointlessness of forcing men to charge into battle without guns... and would also make you realise why it was in the captured nazis' interests to portray the red army as some kind of orc horde. The Soviet regime was evil in many ways but it was not stupid nor particularly suicidal.

Check a proper western historian of soviet military history's take on the events... someone like Col. David Glantz.. and you will see examples of brutality and incompetence alongside heroism and skill.. but nothing like the travesty "Enemy at the gates".
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But you can see why people (like myself) believe that, propaganda works, and the general mindset people actually think stuff like this happened. When you get sources based on sources based on a lie, the truth and fiction lines get blurry for people like me that don't do hardcore research. Now I'll be less inclined to believe what I know.

Now I get to pull this image out again.
Spoiler!
 
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If you can unlock different types of bayonets that would make me happy. But I fear this isn't the case. Another thing I will immediately have to grind along with the PPSH drum mag before I can relax and simply enjoy the game.
 
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One thing I noticed in the soundless gameplay vid that supports this being a BAD thing is that I saw a soldier spawn with a mosin bayonet already attached, as if to imply that 1) it's an unlock, and 2) what if you can't remove it?

I know, this is ridiculous to consider, but hey we just found out there are silencers in the game yesterday so I kind of have to put all the options on the table ...
 
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Considering that there will be varying scopes for the sniper. It would be weird if you couldn't use an older scope and would be forced to use like a 6x very high powered scope on a map like apartments.

Personally I wouldn't care if the bayonet would become an unlock or not. As long as if it becomes an unlock that you can unlock it early on. I do however still hope that i can remove the sight hood of my k98 as an unlock :3 .
 
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Zetsumei said:
Considering that there will be varying scopes for the sniper. It would be weird if you couldn't use an older scope and would be forced to use like a 6x very high powered scope on a map like apartments.

Personally I wouldn't care if the bayonet would become an unlock or not. As long as if it becomes an unlock that you can unlock it early on. I do however still hope that i can remove the sight hood of my k98 as an unlock :3 .
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The loopy thing at the end of the sight? Yeah, if I was in WW2 I'd take a hammer to that long ago.
 
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i like it if its an unlock. Why ? Because we have limited unlock slots and you have to make a decision how you want to go into battle. The large magazine or the bajonet...hmmm
 
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Nestor Makhno said:
Sorry but LOL.

Barbarossa was based on the testimony of captured nazis trying to justify to their US captors that they had to do what they did cos they were fighting subhumans who send their own men into battle unarmed. Come the cold war no-one was particularly inclined in the west to check the veracity of this stuff.

Beevor's research includes such gems as saying that one division commander practiced decimation (in the strict Roman sense) without quoting any sources at all.

World at War used Barbarossa as source material IIRC.

A moment's thought would make you realise the absolute pointlessness of forcing men to charge into battle without guns... and would also make you realise why it was in the captured nazis' interests to portray the red army as some kind of orc horde. The Soviet regime was evil in many ways but it was not stupid nor particularly suicidal.

Check a proper western historian of soviet military history's take on the events... someone like Col. David Glantz.. and you will see examples of brutality and incompetence alongside heroism and skill.. but nothing like the travesty "Enemy at the gates".
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I tried so hard to make a coherent post that would be a historical win but no :'(

Goddam you Nestor Makhno :p
 
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