Balancing patch is going to kill the game?

[RICHTHOFEN]

Hello Forum, yesterday i was wondering why ppl started asking for a balance of the game, overpowered weapons and stuff like that, and i just realised that ppl that started with these balancing thing r the most experimented players (by that i mean level 6 perks), and its true, i mean game its getting boring with ppl camping with xbows in the same spot the whole game, using piles of pipebombs to get rid of fps and even the patty, etc.

I don not care about the balance of the game, in fact i like it cause game is getting boring for me, but my point here is that what about the new players? what about the low level perks? ik theres always the beginner or normal mode but they wont be able to play more hard or suicidal games cause they r going to be powned hard and game is going to be boring for them so they r going to quit KF and the community is going to be smaller now, im just saying, what do u guys think?

 

[SMIFF]

New players will be fine, don't worry.

 

[Entangler]

That's what practice is for. Beginner and Normal will still be easy, and new players will gradually improve by playing them. Most of us who want the difficulty increased have been playing long enough to remember when the game was a lot more punishing than it is now, and it clearly didn't drive us away - we just kept playing until we were good enough to handle it. Surely new players in 1015 can be expected to do the same?

 

[RICHTHOFEN]

New players will be fine, don't worry.

That's what practice is for. Beginner and Normal will still be easy, and new players will gradually improve by playing them. Most of us who want the difficulty increased have been playing long enough to remember when the game was a lot more punishing than it is now, and it clearly didn't drive us away - we just kept playing until we were good enough to handle it. Surely new players in 1015 can be expected to do the same?

I hope they can handle it , also what do u guys think about this?
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=642345#post642345
Maybe it could be implemented on this next patch?
let me know what u guys think.

 

[avp2501]

I've been Beta testing the 1015 for about a week now and you guys have nothing to worry about. In the beta all your perks are reset so I've been running around on Normal difficulty, I haven't managed to kill the boss yet but I've survived the 10 waves using all perks.

The only real difference is the increased difficulty with Scrakes and FPs, in solo my lvl 3 SS has to headshot a FP 2/3 times to kill him, of course this would be much harder in a 6 man team.

I'm glad that TW have been working on the balance issues and it's good to be able to fear the heavy units again.

RICHTHOFEN - its only boring because you run around on normal difficulty servers with your lvl 6 perks team killing any low levels that join the game. Try defending the worst defensive spot on suicidal and you won't complain that the game is boring.

If you are that high a level you shouldn't be allowed on Hard or below.

 

[BenioX]

Well, I got nothing to say here... except, that the "ballance" may have good sides and bad sides. Maybe we can't even see them yet, but in future we can get less/more players thanks to it. Future can tell. Time So I suggest stop whining about this update. Maybe I'll like it maybe not. Maybe I'll stop playing KF maybe will play more. Who cares? Stop being so much defencive/offencive over it that's my suggestion

 

[RICHTHOFEN]

Well, I got nothing to say here... except, that the "ballance" may have good sides and bad sides. Maybe we can't even see them yet, but in future we can get less/more players thanks to it. Future can tell. Time So I suggest stop whining about this update. Maybe I'll like it maybe not. Maybe I'll stop playing KF maybe will play more. Who cares? Stop being so much defencive/offencive over it that's my suggestion

No ones whining. LOL

RICHTHOFEN - its only boring because you run around on normal difficulty servers with your lvl 6 perks team killing any low levels that join the game. Try defending the worst defensive spot on suicidal and you won't complain that the game is boring.

If you are that high a level you shouldn't be allowed on Hard or below.

LOL x2

 

[BenioX]

No ones whining. LOL

RICHTHOFEN - its only boring because you run around on normal difficulty servers with your lvl 6 perks team killing any low levels that join the game. Try defending the worst defensive spot on suicidal and you won't complain that the game is boring.

If you are that high a level you shouldn't be allowed on Hard or below.

Now that's just irony.

 

[RICHTHOFEN]

I dont care if he whines, Im not.

 

[Benjamin]

Well initially the balancing patch was just about bringing other weapons in line with each other, since some of them are currently far too powerful compared to others. The whole idea of the patch is to make the game more of a challenge, and thus more fun.

If it makes the game too hard simply play on a lower difficulty until you get better or level up more.

 

[BenioX]

If it makes the game too hard simply play on a lower difficulty until you get better or level up more.

What if even bests player will have problems with it much enough to QUIT? Just a question which I thought of latelly. I may of course be just not carefull on words, but isn't fun about having chances to win as well as to loose? Isn't fun about having challenge on the same level as skills? What if the challenge will be too high even for pro? What if really few people would enjoy the challenge? Would that be fun? What if this patch will make less people play it and by that less servers and less people to play with? My friend already stopped playing KF when he heard about this patch coming out.

 

[SMIFF]

BenioX, thought you said you were going to stop whining?

 

[BenioX]

BenioX, thought you said you were going to stop whining?

Just a question which I thought of latelly.

Let me correct it if you didn't understand the intention: I don't really care about this update itself, I just got some questions walking randomly through my head, but the most frequent one is if this update will result in good or bad things? Nothing else. I just said my opinion on this, which is "it may be good, but it also may be bad" a.k.a I am "idc" as far as it isn't out yet.

 

[RICHTHOFEN]

Ok.

 

[avp2501]

the update is great, you can actually lose again. Can't remember the last time that happened.

Since the New array of weapons and the lvl 6 upgrade the zombies haven't won a single round. They haven't had a chance since last December.

BenioX - Not sure if you're talking about me but our team kicked him off the server and had a blast all night so I'm not whining.

 

[RICHTHOFEN]

kicked who? me? i dont even know u...

 

[Undedd Jester]

The game is at its best when a Scrake is chewing on your spleen or a fleshpound is playing the bongos on your face

Look at how hard the original Sonic and Mario games were. A hell of alot harder than their modern equivelants, and if people don't appreciate that they don't have a right to call themselves gamers

Real gamers have sacrificed our social lives and become outcasts, and there ain't no way that KF should be screwed up by auto aiming, wii bowling, madden rostering, P90, stun grenade noobcakes.

As VGCats once said "We memorised the Ultra Combos, We wrote down pages of passwords, We defeated the Robotmasters, knocked out Tyson and saved the God damned Princess!"

It would be a crime against humanity to keep KF as easy as it is. With all the main stream crap out there right now we really need a game that requires some bloody balls to win. KF Beta is that game.

Hip Hip!

 

[Benjamin]

What if even bests player will have problems with it much enough to QUIT? Just a question which I thought of latelly. I may of course be just not carefull on words, but isn't fun about having chances to win as well as to loose? Isn't fun about having challenge on the same level as skills? What if the challenge will be too high even for pro? What if really few people would enjoy the challenge? Would that be fun? What if this patch will make less people play it and by that less servers and less people to play with? My friend already stopped playing KF when he heard about this patch coming out.

Only the babies are going to complain that it's too hard and that they can't complete suicidal like they used to. Real players like a challenge.

 

[Kabelis]

What if even bests player will have problems with it much enough to QUIT? Just a question which I thought of latelly. I may of course be just not carefull on words, but isn't fun about having chances to win as well as to loose? Isn't fun about having challenge on the same level as skills? What if the challenge will be too high even for pro? What if really few people would enjoy the challenge? Would that be fun? What if this patch will make less people play it and by that less servers and less people to play with? My friend already stopped playing KF when he heard about this patch coming out.

Losing is fun

 

[avp2501]

The game is at its best when a Scrake is chewing on your spleen or a fleshpound is playing the bongos on your face

Look at how hard the original Sonic and Mario games were. A hell of alot harder than their modern equivelants, and if people don't appreciate that they don't have a right to call themselves gamers

Real gamers have sacrificed our social lives and become outcasts, and there ain't no way that KF should be screwed up by auto aiming, wii bowling, madden rostering, P90, stun grenade noobcakes.

As VGCats once said "We memorised the Ultra Combos, We wrote down pages of passwords, We defeated the Robotmasters, knocked out Tyson and saved the God damned Princess!"

It would be a crime against humanity to keep KF as easy as it is. With all the main stream crap out there right now we really need a game that requires some bloody balls to win. KF Beta is that game.

Hip Hip!

BEST REPLY EVER!!!! In fact I'm gonna print it out, frame it, and stick it on the wall.

kicked who? me? i dont even know u...

Yeah I was on one of my other steam accounts playing KF and you just run around team killing everyone like a muppet high on doritoes.

Of course we kicked you off, it would have been less suicidal to give a random bear the M16 and see what he did with it.