Axis Greatcoats ...

[The_Emperor]

I do no longer remember how often this was requested by others or me. All I know it's been very often. In my opinion it's already pathetic that they weren't part of the original load out but it's really miserable that we still have to ask for them to this day.

Evidence (wartime photographs) of fighting Axis troops in the Kessel in winter show them in greatcoats. Yes, I know German greatcoats were originally made for temperatures of middle European winters. Still I know from my own experience that wearing a greatcoat over your field tunic allows you to last longer in the snow and the freezing wind.

As RO series always rendered you dead as you soon as you are no longer able to fight, I fairly wonder why Axis reinforcements are not instantly depleted on winter maps. Running around in winter the way Axis are now you won't last for long.


As the Red Army has already a greatcoat model it shouldn't be too hard to model one for the Germans as well.
And no, statements like "It will increase tk rate do not count", haven't you noticed that in summertime maps neither of the teams are wearing greatcoats, both are wearing field tunics. Also tk was part of war and so is part of RO.


There is evidence for their usage in the Kessel, there is community members requesting them, there is no excuse for them not being in the game: Get German greatcoats here!

 

[Sarkis.]

Agree

 

[ross]

Agreed.

Another feature from RO which was dropped to cut corners and allow more time for things which don't belong in the game.

 

[c200k]

I do no longer remember how often this was requested by others or me. All I know it's been very often. In my opinion it's already pathetic that they weren't part of the original load out but it's really miserable that we still have to ask for them to this day.

Evidence (wartime photographs) of fighting Axis troops in the Kessel in winter show them in greatcoats. Yes, I know German greatcoats were originally made for temperatures of middle European winters. Still I know from my own experience that wearing a greatcoat over your field tunic allows you to last longer in the snow and the freezing wind.

As RO series always rendered you dead as you soon as you are no longer able to fight, I fairly wonder why Axis reinforcements are not instantly depleted on winter maps. Running around in winter the way Axis are now you won't last for long.


As the Red Army has already a greatcoat model it shouldn't be too hard to model one for the Germans as well.
And no, statements like "It will increase tk rate do not count", haven't you noticed that in summertime maps neither of the teams are wearing greatcoats, both are wearing field tunics. Also tk was part of war and so is part of RO.


There is evidence for their usage in the Kessel, there is community members requesting them, there is no excuse for them not being in the game: Get German greatcoats here!

imho - lost in details...

I can only repeat myself, we need troop carriers above all other, because there were new possibilities for the mapping community and a new gameplay experience... Greatcoats are just for optics...

 

[Dr.Phibles]

if you want great coats feel free to model them yourself being only a aesthetic change the majority of people dont care and would rather have more tanks and hts/apcs and so on, im sure they will come eventually but pretty sure they will be very low down on the priority list..

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

While greatcoats would be nice, they are purely visual and personally very low on the priority list. Very low.

As some others may com in and state, I would rather see TWI work on other things that actually add something to the game that is not just visual.

PS: if they are so easy to do, someone should just mod them in...

 

[TrOOper]

I do no longer remember how often this was requested by others or me. All I know it's been very often. In my opinion it's already pathetic that they weren't part of the original load out but it's really miserable that we still have to ask for them to this day.

Yes, greatcoats would be a nice visual...however, its far from "pathetic"..You shouldnt let a computer game make you "miserable".

 

[cucamonster]

Not only greatcoats, they need a lot more player models, new faces, bald soldiers, guys without helmet, dirty ragged clothing, more faces in general, guys with long beard, guys with bandages around head or arm, these things would bring A LOT of immersion for the game, I'm really looking forward to see some new skins by players or general new player models from Tripwire.

 

[r5cya]

i no longer remember how many times you've asked for them, either. (must be hundreds of times) it's safe to say they are aware that you want them, though!

 

[Nezzer]

Yeah, I created two thread some months ago regarding greatcoats, one before and another after the game was released. I really hate the lack of greatcoats for the Germans, but like Moe said, they are not priority.

 

[[TW]Wilsonam]

There is evidence for their usage in the Kessel, there is community members requesting them, there is no excuse for them not being in the game: Get German greatcoats here!

1. No-one ever said the Germans didn't have greatcoats at Stalingrad.
2. There are community members requesting LOTS of things.
3. There is no excuse - there are just priorities.

Work with Yoshiro as the community manager to get your requests heard. And if there simply isn't enough demand to raise greatcoats up the priority list, then they will stay low on it...

 

[Korn-Y]

1. No-one ever said the Germans didn't have greatcoats at Stalingrad.
2. There are community members requesting LOTS of things.
3. There is no excuse - there are just priorities.

Work with Yoshiro as the community manager to get your requests heard. And if there simply isn't enough demand to raise greatcoats up the priority list, then they will stay low on it...

Can we know what are the current priorities at TWI please?
More visuals (Greatcoats, clothes, faces, weapons condition) are as important as new maps or weapons IMHO. They are good boredom killers

 

[Gaizokubanou]

Can we know what are the current priorities at TWI please?

I hope it's implementation of advertised features, like online multiplayer campaign.

A grand campaign over entire Stalingrad would have been amazing and would make lot of quirk balance issues with individual maps lot more forgivable due to this extra meta game that involves all the maps.

 

[migmadmarine]

Were the German white camo covers available during the battle? It would be nice to occasionally spawn with a white cover over your legs/torso, or over the aforementioned greatcoat.

 

[The_Emperor]

1. No-one ever said the Germans didn't have greatcoats at Stalingrad.
2. There are community members requesting LOTS of things.
3. There is no excuse - there are just priorities.

Work with Yoshiro as the community manager to get your requests heard. And if there simply isn't enough demand to raise greatcoats up the priority list, then they will stay low on it...

Incredible, the first German greatcoat thread with a Tripwire statement! Guys, we did it!

I will then post a pm to Yoshiro then. Hope this helps.

 

[teemu92]

I would also love to have them in the game, i understand there is stuff needed more but if you guys ever get spare time work on the coats then

 

[lawless]

i'd rather have them fix other tehnical issues, work on new maps, etc. if they could get the greatcoats/general modeling upgrades patch in place and not forestall what i consider to be improvements to game playability/rediscovery (like what the bridges map has done for a lot of us who were tired of the same old maps) then yeah no brainer, go for it. [i realize twi did not make that map...]

If there was a means by which TWI could open source and integrate some of these low level things into the general build that would be great as well. Personally, i don't want them spending time on the little things, not unless they release them in large chunks of upgrades all at once. I worry about some of the other things getting "changed" for the worse in each new release and/or destabilization of some other elements - or who knows what.

yeah, yeah... go ahead a nd flame away now... the greatcoat is the future of all gaming... blah blah blah... gimmee realism or gimme death...

 

[The Commissar]

Are you asking for great coats to become a "standard" on winter maps? or just for them to be mixed in?

 

[Holy.Death]

There is no point of having two threads about the same idea and since the other topic has a poll to vote in I think discussion concerning greatcoats should continue here.