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Field Marshal Rommel

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All the Panzerfausts being produced was for research to build there own rpg later in 1947. Not to mention the Germans demolished their factories before they left leaving very little behind It would have been tactically absurd to leave such a weapon laying around for the enemy to use. In fact their are various accounts of German demolition crew blowing up various factories such as their airplane factories and weapon factories before retreating.:)

I would really like to know your sources because every source I found states that the Soviets recovered some panzerfausts for research and that the so called Soviet panzerfaust information is very sketchy and hard to determine fact from fiction(propaganda).
 
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Cyion

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I wish panzerfaust were not lying around for everyone to use in maps. There are plenty of fausts to pass around after the german anti-tank soldier dies a couple times.
 
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Yet there are almost no(except in your book) accounts of the Soviet using panzerfaust:cool:
any more sources than just this one book?
from amazon.de said:
The non-East German reader will notice immediately at the style of the book that also this work developed still during the time of the GDR(american occupied Germany) in the military book publishing house. Already in the work „infantry weapons today " one knew itself over distinctions into „socialist " and „capitalistic " countries and quotations as for instance „the danger of the use of nuclear weapons by NATO forces too… “to amuse, showed her the thinking structures and class enemy pictures, within those the FRG was nevertheless regarded. Even if it concerns a technical book, the political painting is more un
 
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[TW]schneidzekk

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There are more than enough sources out there, but seriously, i have more important stuff to do.

P.S. You should mention that the quote you posted is an Amazone user's opinion, not a fact. Additionally you shoud have quoted the entire comment, this guy actually recommends to buy the book.
 

Coey

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I don't think a Red Army soldier is going to pass up the chance of having some anti-armour protection, just because that piece of equipment just happens to not be made by Russia.

It's got a friggin diagram of how to use it on the ****ing thing!

Also, I doubt you'd find a source saying "Today, I, Private Ivan, used a Panzerfaust. I just happened to find it lying aroud. Then, I sneezed. I also have a headache. My boots don't fit. It's cold, etc, etc." Using a Panzerfaust is hardly something to wright home about, is it?
 

Taranov

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I don't think a Red Army soldier is going to pass up the chance of having some anti-armour protection, just because that piece of equipment just happens to not be made by Russia.

1). Special for you - Red Army troops with Panzerfaust
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2). First reason, why Red Army troops not use germand weapons - ammo. In Red Army used different ammo - 7,62 mm. Second reason - why use K98, if you have Mosin M.1930? MP-40 - good weapon for panzergrenaders and tank crew, but for ordinary infantry PPSH is better.

3). Red Army don't use rocket launchers as a basical weapon for infantry. But they mass use HEAT AT grenades from 1943. RPG-43, RPG-6... Penetration of RPG-6 - 120 mm, for sides/back penetration of any german tank it's ok ;)

4). Red Army trooper with MKb.42
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Also in Red Army used captured STg.44. Some NCOs also use german pistols, my grandfather, for example, use Walther P.38.
 

Bravo22

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Anyone know off hand if the Pz IVH has a thicker mantlet?

Thanks in advance.

There is no increase in the armor of the Gun mantlet. The mantlet of the Pz Kpfw IV Ausf F through Ausf J all had the same armor thickness being 50mm 0 -30 degrees in angle.

The Ausf H Superstructure and Front hull was increased from 50mm to 80mm. The sides and rear stayed the same, with a slight increase (5mm) to the top armor.

This information from Arms & Armor "Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two", pages 94-99.

Interesting reading if anyone buys the book.

Hope this addition comes with some nice camo paint jobs!
 

Bolt

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That information is sketchy at best and there was or is no hard evidence that the Soviets did in fact use the Panzerfaust. Even if they did they did as you said your self at the very end of the war and in small numbers that it has no place in Ro.
Is this hard enough?
I won't bother myself translating the text, if you need it, you can always use online translators. http://www.fortification.ru/library/shisbr/

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Felix Ostheim

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As far as Russians with panzerfausts I feel it is plausible, both sides made use of captured equipment...there are many photographs out there of Germans using PPSHs like trophies. I just don't think there should be spawns of them closer to the Russian spawn than the German spawn...let them capture them just like any other enemy weapon.
 

Sichartshofen

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As far as Russians with panzerfausts I feel it is plausible, both sides made use of captured equipment...there are many photographs out there of Germans using PPSHs like trophies. I just don't think there should be spawns of them closer to the Russian spawn than the German spawn...let them capture them just like any other enemy weapon.
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