Are the mg42 and svt40 still in this game?

[Citadell]

Maybe the MG42 may be a Hero weapon since, according to the scheme, was very rare.

 

[GRIZZLY]

I think it's sad if they introduce all this weaponry that might or might not have been in Stalingrad but pass on the MG42 for which there is proof it was in Stalingrad. Especially for something so petty as balance reasons. It's really fun to use in RO and I prefer asymmetrical balance where the Russians have the superior SMG and Germans the superior MG. Asymmetrical balance is what sparks people to think about tactics.

Well spoken my friend. Hopefully the ppsh small mags for balance etc. are only in firefight mode and territory is like Ost. I'm proud to be part of a community that sees through the bullsh#t that is balance. It's like giving the losing team a trophy ... makes the kids feel less pressure but, the competition is spoiled before it even starts. Or having an adult throw slow balls so every moron with no depth perception can hit a single *cringe*

 

[nebsif]

My bet is that if the MG42 makes it into the game it will be the rarest of the Hero weapons.
The MG42 is superb on every category but one of it's best features is it's drawback, the stupidly high rate of fire.
You can shoot a ****storm of bullets but you will run out of ammo very quickly.

Any significant advantages over MG34 expt ROF tho?
My opinion about "balance" is that realism is more or less balanced by default, you dont have to make LMGs fire BB guns if u make them handle like RL (not related to RO) and there's also that asymmetrical balance, Germans have leet LMGs but Russians have the drum mag PPSH rape thingy.

About PPSH "being used" in 2011, MG3 is still being used for real pewpew like.. NOW by many modern armies and its more or less MG42 firing a NATO cartridge as far as I understood from wiki. ^^

 

[Ossius]

My theory is this:

MG42 is one of the most iconic WW2 Machineguns (and one of the most iconic in the world period)
So I think that they are waiting for the next game trailer or a big reveal. After seeing the VERY sexy MG34, I'm sure the MG42 is going to be jizz in pants adorable.

Adorable being of course a freaking buzzsaw of death.

 

[CopperHead]

Not to mention the fact that the MG42 is available on Stalingrad Kessel.

This says it all.

 

[aD.Luoson]

They have said recently that heroes dont get different weapons anymore
It will properly be the last unlock for the MG42 in which only the "Elite Machine Gunner" Class will be able to select it (guessing like 1or2 max per server)

 

[Tank!]

The PPsh are better than the MP40 so you don't want it in RO2, too?

The Ppsh with the 35 round mag would be inferior though.

By the way the STV40 is much better than the G41, too

Is this ignoring the SVT's horrible vertical shot dispersion and such problems? Remember the soviets themselves deemed the svt a failure.

The MG42 isn't a super weapon, it has an high fire rate, but that means that you are very fast out of ammo.

Unless it gets its largest belt used in Stalingrad instead of its small belt in RO1.

inaccurate, insta-overheating bullet-lobber MG42, to balance it out around DP28. In RO1 it WAS balanced with DP28. So they probably are going to do this again

And for those who dont believe its balanced with the inferior DP28 in the first RO please try the better coded MG 42 in DH and feel the difference.

as close to the real world equivalent as possible. They didn't spend the effort finding and shooting all the ww2 guns they could get their hands on for ****s and giggles.

I doubt they shot or used an MkB 42, the anti-tank rifles, stielhandgranates, AVT40s, DP 28s, Maxim 1910s, MP40/II or any of the tanks.

the stupidly high rate of fire. You can shoot a ****storm of bullets but you will run out of ammo very quickly.

The Ppsh has this very same problem.

 

[Unus Offa Unus Nex]

Regarding the MG42, I have a feeling it will be there, but lets see

I doubt they shot or used an MkB 42, the anti-tank rifles, stielhandgranates, AVT40s, DP 28s, Maxim 1910s, MP40/II or any of the tanks.

I'm sure they've fired the StG, which is near identical to the Mkb42. I am also quite sure they've fired an SVT40, DP28, Maxim 1910 and an MP40 (again same deal as MP40/II). As for the tanks, they've probably spent some time inside the tanks featured to make sure the interior is correctly modelled.

 

[Tank!]

As for the tanks, they've probably spent some time inside the tanks featured to make sure the interior is correctly modelled.

I see what you did there

 

[Unus Offa Unus Nex]

Let's all just remember that mistakes do happen, the guys behind this game are human after-all, so have some patience. It is fine we let our opinions be heard, and it is also fine that we point out any flaws that we see, but we also need to have some faith in the guys doing the actual work.

I am sure issues such as those we've seen with the PPSH selector switch, blueing of the Mosin bolts, Pz.IV's driver vision slit etc etc. are all being worked upon by the developers. Heck I'm sure that even my biggest complaint so far regarding tank turret & gun control has atleast been considered, but this is mostly a control issue, and not an historical one so it kinda takes a backseat for now, which I can understand.

The final point here though, is that TWI won't let us down in the end, I'm sure of it, so lets have some patience and not panic as soon as we see a potential mistake. Point it out if you see it and I'm sure the devs will make notice of it.

Just 50 days to go now

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures of MG42 in Stalingrad, let alone the unit cards.
If it's not in release, Tripwire has added weapons post-release for RO1, so I'd expect it to show up after.
What I can recall is the MP41 and G41 both were added much later in RO, and even Killing Floor got many weapons additions post-release.

I hope that Tripwire adds new guns to the game in patches because that would be awesome. I love weapons, and I love lots of them, and I'm confident Tripwire does too.

MG42 is a must, and also I'm not hearing reports of the P08 Luger - that should be in too

 

[Jerren]

I really am hoping for the mg42. Its just hard to have a complete WWII experience IMO without it.

 

[captain max707]

I'd love to see it in there, but I won't kill myself if it isn't.

And maybe they're just waiting to announce it? I know it would make a lot of people pretty stoked...

 

[Actin]

TBH I really don't care it it is the MG34 or the MG42 is the one I use to pound on the enemy. Although the MG42 has some better looks and nicer barrel change.

I would be glad if implement, but I will survive if it's not.

 

[Oldih]

The Ppsh with the 35 round mag would be inferior though.

Negative.

 

[Frostedfire]

Negative.

depends on how much you spam. the bigger the ammo drum (or belt), the bigger the spam

 

[GRIZZLY]

I'm sure the mg42 is halfway done and they stopped so they could release the game sometime..... if its not here by 2013 ill start moaning

 

[DiBBs]

I definitely think that if it's not out on release it will come in an update.
I mean come on guys, twi KNOWS we all want this stupidly beautiful piece of deathmachine.

 

[koschi]

I think it would be sad and awesome if the mg42 isnt in awesome because i think it will be added in a future update then and that means i have something to look forward to after the realese(i know besides the mods and community maps and.....) okay just realese it (freezes himself like cartman to wake up on the 29 august for a last day of ostfront

 

[Maizel]

It;s funny that we've gotten to the point that lack of confirmation that weapons are in is actually used as evidence of it's absence, by some.