anyone else loving the dual 9mm?

[Fedorov]

I'm loving every single bit of this update, but specially the perk re-balance and that the 9mm have a use now

dual 9mm are IMO the most spectacular weapon for ZED time by far and is not a bad weapon at all now =)



on a side note to TW, maybe is too much to ask but could you increase the flashlight time for sharpshooters and medics? =P

 

[lifeonhell]

i dont like duals at all
it reduces my accuracy alot!!!

 

[Xer0]

For SS, I would prefer one since it is easy to headshot with. I have dual HCs for when the bigger zeds come and need to dispatch them quickly. But once I reach lvl 5, I'll probably use dual 9mms as well. But I forget if he can even carry that much weight.

 

[Fedorov]

of course it hurts your accuracy but is not about accuracy its about style =P

SS can carry dual 9mm + dual deagles + a lever action

you can use the lever action for long ranges, dual deagles for the skrakes and Fps, and the dual 9mms for everything else

 

[omarfw]

don't know why everyone complains about the dual deagles and dual 9mm's decreasing their accuracy. it doesn't decrease my accuracy at all. i use the dual deagles for long range kills all the time with only 1 or 2 bullets hitting a wall out of a whole clip.

learn how to aim without a guide like an ironsight or crosshair. geezus

 

[thrash242]

Nope, I prefer to aim properly and reload quickly. If I accidentally pick up a second 9mm, I'll usually drop it.

I am getting a lot more use out of the single 9mm as a sharpshooter, though.

 

[Benjamin]

With level 5 sharpshooter a crawler on hard only takes two shots from a 9mm. And the reload time is awesome.

 

[driftwood]

I think the 2nd 9mm isn't worth its weight most of the time, I find a lot of other weapon combinations to max out my weight more useful.

I play on hard at the moment and whereas I used to be able to rely on dual 9mm to blast my way through a few gorefasts blocking me into a nasty situation (like being chased by a FP), now I find that after about 15 somewhat clumsily shot bullets at point blank, that gorefast isn't even disabled. 9mm just dosn't do enough damage unless you score a critical headshot, which is unlikely when shooting dualies while running.

However overall I do like how dual pistols in this game can be useful, whereas it is usually a let down in most games and has mostly been left for fun in John Woo films. The dual 9mm are good for taking out a hell of a lot of crawlers before needing to reload, or for blasting your way to the KF-Offices rooftop with flashlight on.

 

[omarfw]

lol i can headshot with dualies while running. maybe not always. 50%-60% chance i'll actually hit the head but just saying, it's possible. people bug me when they complain about something and blame it on the game when the fact is they just have bad aim.

 

[thrash242]

lol i can headshot with dualies while running. maybe not always. 50%-60% chance i'll actually hit the head but just saying, it's possible.

Sounds like you just have low standards. When I'm using a single 9mm, I expect to get at least 90% headshots and decapitations on clots, gorefasts, stalkers, crawlers, and bloats. Anything above that and it takes a few 9mm rounds (or higher levels in sharpshooter). The first few waves I kill pretty much everything with a decapitation headshot with the starting 9mm.

There's no way you're going to convince me that you're as accurate with two pistols as I am with one using the sights, especially beyond point-blank range.

One bullet exactly on target is worth far more that lots of bullets in the general area of the target.

 

[omarfw]

There's no way you're going to convince me that you're as accurate with two pistols as I am with one using the sights, especially beyond point-blank range.

lol i didn't really say i was accurate, but i'm trying to make a point that it is possible to get headshots under any condition with dualies. lots of people like to complain and say it isn't possible. which is horribly wrong.

also, im not an accuracy buff. i do use a rifle but i only go for 1 shotters like crawlers and clots and let the headshot crazy peeps like you take out everything else.

 

[thrash242]

lol i didn't really say i was accurate, but i'm trying to make a point that it is possible to get headshots under any condition with dualies. lots of people like to complain and say it isn't possible. which is horribly wrong.

also, im not an accuracy buff. i do use a rifle but i only go for 1 shotters like crawlers and clots and let the headshot crazy peeps like you take out everything else.

It's possible to get a headshot on a moving target from 100 yards while blindfolded in a snowstorm. It doesn't mean it's reliable.

The point people are making is that they prefer to actually be able to reliably hit where they're aiming and that isn't going to happen past point-blank range with dual pistols.

If you just want to spray and pray, that's fine, but for accuracy, single pistols are superior.

 

[Red Giant]

As commando, I'll use dual 9mms on backup, though I rarely use them because I'm usually dead by time I need them :/

If I do manage to use them though, they can clear out a good portion of zombies roughly equivalent to a full-auto unload from the bullpup

 

[etikilam]

I've always liked the pistol(s) but it would of been nice if they boosted medics in some way after the runspeed nerf.. like giving them the bonus with the pistol. I can't imagine many sharp shooters relying on the pistol past round 1, making this change nothing more then some free headshots towards the level counter.

 

[Bio666]

It's possible to get a headshot on a moving target from 100 yards while blindfolded in a snowstorm. It doesn't mean it's reliable.

Perfect saying. I think I'm gonna re-quote it like a hundred times...
...

also, im not an accuracy buff.

Hey, dude, wtf is "accuracy buff" ? Someone's cheating here, guys

 

[omarfw]

Hey, dude, wtf is "accuracy buff" ? Someone's cheating here, guys

you don't get the meaning. an accuracy buff is someone who's picky about being accurate. if i were to say i was a gaming buff it's mean i was someone obsessed with knowledge of gaming.

now you know lol

 

[thrash242]

Perfect saying. I think I'm gonna re-quote it like a hundred times...
...

Hey, dude, wtf is "accuracy buff" ? Someone's cheating here, guys

noun

(pl. buffs)
You use buff to describe someone who knows a lot about a particular subject. For example, if you describe someone as a film buff, you mean that they know a lot about films.

 

[Centy]

Buff is often used by Fantasy gamers etc to mean enhancement like +5 magik or something.

On topic I'm loving the crap out of the Dual 9mms atm I often don't move to something else till the Scrakes and Fleshpounds start to roll out. In ZED time it gives me a very cool John Woo vibe and it's contributing to my Sharpshooter perk which is nearly level 4.

 

[Bio666]

Buff is often used by Fantasy gamers etc to mean enhancement like +5 magik or something.

This is exactly what I mean. But thanks, for explaining to me what "real" buff is

 

[kingkong]

I prefer duals on both of the pistols because of the recoil animation. I weigh the benefits of both speed and accuracy, both of them put together equal your damage output. if you know how to aim between the sights you can actually be more accurate with duals than singles while moving and firing, because the gun recoils and blocks your line of sight in between shots.

especially with zed time where you would normally be waiting for your next round to chamber, while the barrel is obscuring your view you are wasting the speed advantage. with duals you have double the rate of fire, and a clear view of your next target. it's a beautiful thing to extend zed x5 in a row by popping critical headshots one after another, something I find to be much harder with the pistol in my face. I have been in games where we had something like 10 zeds in a row with the help of a chainsaw berserker lopping heads off at the same time.