another one bites the dust

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TheAlpha

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I just played Canyon Final and noticed to exp wth???

it seems like every month or so Tripwire keeps making bad changes due to whiners and complainers.
each nerf or de-whitelist is like as if they are saying......well we screwed up so lets change it cus its our enjpyment that matters and not the players.

Nerfing Medic speed.seriously? medics need to get to their patients as fast as they can...wth???
Nerfong the Scar Damage....u got to b kidding right?

i see why more and more people are playing support and flamethrower....thats all there is worth playing IMO but im sure TW will nerf them soon...lmao

The Game was awesome in the begining but now its just a meaningless and decapitated shell of what it used to be.

Great maps Like
Canyon
RE-Mansion
road to perdition
and so on


i can see why Giant Clans Like Bobs Whorehouse (i go here alot) stopped and dont play this game anymore.the fun is gone and why build a map or char if only to get nerfed later on?
..Bob's do still run the game on there servers there are less and less players as the Nerfs keep coming.thank the doom2 nerfs for that.


i was just about to get a KF server through UGS but now that i see that TW is screweing the game constantly i see no reason to get it at all.

Killing Canyon Final and nerfing weos and chars abilities.....killed me as well as others in the KF community.

Great job TW keep up the great work in "killing" the killing floor community!!!!
as well as all the hard work Mappers put into their maps for the game....way go go!!!!!!

my point is if something is fun for the masses......then leave it alone!!!

so you can get on a roof in canyon.....so what boo hoo to all those who whined about it
it was still a fun map!!!
 

mamoo

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A load of whining
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Bobs Whorehouse (i go here alot)

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Undedd Jester

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You do realise your basically complaining that the game is too hard for you now right? I'd recommend lowering the difficulty.

Furthermore you can still play non whitelisted maps if they are so fun, if your already max level why would you care? Most people from Bobs whorehouse moaned that they could no longer level their perks in certain maps, which 99% of the time was because they used the map for glitches and exploits to rank up alot easier.

Any map can be put on the whitelist if the map maker fixes it to be reasonably free of exploits. Whenever a map gets reviewing KEPT try to contact the original mapper to let their know their map has been removed and explain to them the reasons why.

If you have a problem with certain maps being removed, take it up with the mapper for not bothering or refusing to correct the mistake.
 
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Lewt

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it seems like every month or so Tripwire keeps making bad changes due to whiners and complainers.
I find that the game is much funner, now. Easy games aren't as enjoyable. Besides, the only people I ever hear whining about KF are people like you, constantly bashing TWI while using an M14 in public servers.

Nerfing Medic speed.seriously? medics need to get to their patients as fast as they can...wth???
Do you mean by like 5%, or back when they have +50% speed? That's not a huge deal at all, and they still heal everyone very easily.

Nerfong the Scar Damage....u got to b kidding right?
It's still perfectly usable to me. AK for small mobs, SCAR for moments where you can't reload or need to help with a scrake. Works the exact same as before, you just seem to be looking for something to complain about.

i can see why Giant Clans Like Bobs Whorehouse (i go here alot) stopped and dont play this game anymore.the fun is gone and why build a map or char if only to get nerfed later on?
They stopped because their perks are probably all maxed out, after all the exploiting and grinding they do. I can almost guarantee that people who cheat for 6th level perks don't actually enjoy the game.

..Bob's do still run the game on there servers there are less and less players as the Nerfs keep coming.thank the doom2 nerfs for that.
Hmm, after more than a YEAR, people play the same horrendously easy custom map, which looks bad, encourages bad gameplay, and is way too small? I'd say that's a good thing. Side note; do you know what "nerf" means?

i was just about to get a KF server through UGS but now that i see that TW is screweing the game constantly i see no reason to get it at all.
Nobody would want to join a server of your's, seeing as how you'd likely abuse exploits, rage, and ban people if they liked the changes TWI has made. I certainly wouldn't.

my point is if something is fun for the masses......then leave it alone!!!
What if things like aimbots were fun for the masses? You encourage the developers to just let their game be ruined? Not even hackers or aimbots, but something like.. hmm, I dunno.. EXPLOITS? Maybe guns that are just extremely overpowered? Man, Call of Duty would be so fun if every weapon was perfectly accurate and killed people in one shot.

so you can get on a roof in canyon.....so what boo hoo to all those who whined about it
Boo hoo, you can't level your perks with an exploit anymore. Time to go on the Tripwire forums to cry about things you don't like.

it was still a fun map!!!
You can still play it. There's nothing stopping you at all, unless you find perk grinding is funner than the actual game.

Cut out some things that I'm not sure are English, or an attempt at it.
 

TheAlpha

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You do realise your basically complaining that the game is too hard for you now right? I'd recommend lowering the difficulty.

[i do play on other diffs but its extremly rare to play with a full group on HoE or suicide on most of the maps and win}

Furthermore you can still play non whitelisted maps if they are so fun, if your already max level why would you care? Most people from Bobs whorehouse moaned that they could no longer level their perks in certain maps, which 99% of the time was because they used the map for glitches and exploits to rank up alot easier.

[such an untrue and presumptuious statement.....no they go tired of TW nerfing Chars that they were working on as well as maps that TW kept nerfing that they supported e.g..doom2 etc etc...they have the MOST played on servers in KF, you'd think that TW would listen to them and get their opinion from time to time? and as far as exploits...TW should be on that before WL a map...its not the communitys fault for TW dropping the ball and then the community paying later for their mistakes.]

Any map can be put on the whitelist if the map maker fixes it to be reasonably free of exploits. Whenever a map gets reviewing KEPT try to contact the original mapper to let their know their map has been removed and explain to them the reasons why.

[thats not my job...thats TW job mate get it right....im the guy that buys the game and plays ithoping to have fun...only later to find his gam keeps getting massacred by the Devs and or TW]

If you have a problem with certain maps being removed, take it up with the mapper for not bothering or refusing to correct the mistake.



[sigh how redundant...see above....sigh]
 

YoYoBatty

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[thats not my job...thats TW job mate get it right....im the guy that buys the game and plays ithoping to have fun...only later to find his gam keeps getting massacred by the Devs and or TW]

Actually, if YOU make a map and YOU go to whitelist it and there's exploits on it, it's YOUR responsibility to fix them so the map can be whitelisted, not TWI's. Why? Cause they are busy working their arses off on Red Orchestra 2.
 
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Undedd Jester

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Suicidal and HoE are meant to be very hard... the clue is in the name.

And its not your job? Its everyones job to report exploits in whitelisted maps. You accuse TWI of not doing their job to test all the maps thoroughly?

Do you have the slightest clue how many maps got submitted to TWI for whitelisting? There were literally hundreds. Its extremely unreasonable to ask them to provide a free service and spend hours upon hours testing every single map. TWI instead decided their time was better spent working on producing their next game, and compromised by whitelisting everything. People then started taking the piss and making maps solely designed to exploit.

Thats why dedicated members of the community took it upon themselves to do the testing work for them. Noone from Bobs Whorehouse ever even applied. I wonder why? Because they loved exploits, they even used to use console commands to boost themselves faster than normal before it got fixed.

We even offered to fix the maps for them to put them straight back onto the whitelist so people who liked the maps were least inconvenienced... and guess what happened? The owners of the maps filed a complaint that the map was no longer their original work and requested the map be removed. Maps aren't the property of TWI they are the property of the mapper, so TWI had no course of action but to accept and were forced to remove the maps.



If you can't understand that then I call troll. Get your facts right before you come here and start insulting people.
 
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Fail-o-wisp

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I just played Canyon Final and noticed to exp wth???

it seems like every month or so Tripwire keeps making bad changes due to whiners and complainers.
each nerf or de-whitelist is like as if they are saying......well we screwed up so lets change it cus its our enjpyment that matters and not the players.
So, it's enjoyable for the Sharpshooter to take out everything like the Grim Reaper choosing his next victim and for the other five players to kick back and order a cocktail with those little umbrellas and build up a tan on their beach bench yes?

Nerfing Medic speed.seriously? medics need to get to their patients as fast as they can...wth???
Nerfong the Scar Damage....u got to b kidding right?
I still manage to catch up with my patients. Just use the knife. As for the SCAR damage, I don't really see much of a difference.
i see why more and more people are playing support and flamethrower....thats all there is worth playing IMO but im sure TW will nerf them soon...lmao
I'd gladly take more and more people playing Firebug and Support Specialist rather than just everyone being a Sharpshooter. More variety in perks is never a bad thing.

The Game was awesome in the begining but now its just a meaningless and decapitated shell of what it used to be.

Great maps Like
Canyon
RE-Mansion
road to perdition
and so on


i can see why Giant Clans Like Bobs Whorehouse (i go here alot) stopped and dont play this game anymore.the fun is gone and why build a map or char if only to get nerfed later on?
..Bob's do still run the game on there servers there are less and less players as the Nerfs keep coming.thank the doom2 nerfs for that.
Thank god they de-whitelisted the doom maps. It's downright annoying and embarrassing to see Level 6 players die on Normal just because they got to Level 6 with some stupid levelling map.


i was just about to get a KF server through UGS but now that i see that TW is screweing the game constantly i see no reason to get it at all.

Killing Canyon Final and nerfing weos and chars abilities.....killed me as well as others in the KF community.

Great job TW keep up the great work in "killing" the killing floor community!!!!
as well as all the hard work Mappers put into their maps for the game....way go go!!!!!!

my point is if something is fun for the masses......then leave it alone!!!

so you can get on a roof in canyon.....so what boo hoo to all those who whined about it
it was still a fun map!!!

tl:dr: Stop using stupid exploits and play the game like it was meant to be, as a challenge, not some 'casual stroll in the park' bull.
 

TheAlpha

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Suicidal and HoE are meant to be very hard... the clue is in the name.

And its not your job? Its everyones job to report exploits in whitelisted maps. You accuse TWI of not doing their job to test all the maps thoroughly?

Do you have the slightest clue how many maps got submitted to TWI for whitelisting? There were literally hundreds. Its extremely unreasonable to ask them to provide a free service and spend hours upon hours testing every single map. TWI instead decided their time was better spent working on producing their next game, and compromised by whitelisting everything. People then started taking the piss and making maps solely designed to exploit.

Thats why dedicated members of the community took it upon themselves to do the testing work for them. Noone from Bobs Whorehouse ever even applied. I wonder why? Because they loved exploits, they even used to use console commands to boost themselves faster than normal before it got fixed.

We even offered to fix the maps for them to put them straight back onto the whitelist so people who liked the maps were least inconvenienced... and guess what happened? The owners of the maps filed a complaint that the map was no longer their original work and requested the map be removed. Maps aren't the property of TWI they are the property of the mapper, so TWI had no course of action but to accept and were forced to remove the maps.



If you can't understand that then I call troll. Get your facts right before you come here and start insulting people.


i just talked with BWH mems and they've never heard of you....and yet you talk like you know them and "did" all this stuff for them in your statements. amd yet i never see you over there?
...LOL

OMG.....

everything youallegated implied about BWH is so untrue and goes against TW eula laws....lol

get your facts straight pls before dishing them man o_o
 

YoYoBatty

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i just talked with BWH mems and they've never heard of you....and yet you talk like you know them and "did" all this stuff for them in your statements. amd yet i never see you over there?
...LOL

OMG.....

Probably cause his forum and steam name are different? And maybe they don't remember him in the server after all 1000's of people did join them everyday. Plus he never said he did all this stuff for them. Oh one last thing, everybody knows the BWH mems are huge exploiters, therefore it is a fact and your statement is redudant.

everything youallegated implied about BWH is so untrue and goes against TW eula laws....lol

Not really no.

get your facts straight pls before dishing them man o_o

No you.
 

HaTeMe

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it seems like every month or so Tripwire keeps making bad changes due to whiners and complainers.

Says a whiner and complainer.

my point is if something is fun for the masses......then leave it alone!!!

Since when did Bobs Whorehouse crew become "THE" masses? Theres a lot more people outside the bubble you know.

as well as all the hard work Mappers put into their maps for the game....way go go!!!!!!

Theres nothing stopping them from fixing the exploits from their maps. And in some cases I and some other community members have been fixing these maps aswell, altho sometimes it leads to unwanted complications (like in such cases where the original mapper suddenly decides his map must be removed from the whitelist because it was fixed by someone else...)

So, blaming TW for somehow ruining mappers work is pointless. Not to mention you can still play them, you just wont level up.

..Bob's do still run the game on there servers there are less and less players as the Nerfs keep coming.thank the doom2 nerfs for that.

Ive got a competing theory: KF is getting older, people are getting bored and find other games. Sure, some people leave because of the changes but some also come back because of them. Most of my friends actually did quite the opposite to your point of view, they stopped playing because the game got too easy and some perks were overpowered, but they returned after the balance changes.

What comes to Doom2... Nerfed? What do you mean, how do you nerf a map? Are you saying it used to be this awesome powerleveling map and now it got nerfed to a normal map where you level up at a normal speed? And this is why you cant play it anymore?

Killing Canyon Final and nerfing weos and chars abilities.....killed me as well as others in the KF community.

First of all, they havent just nerfed everything, they nerfed AND buffed some characters and weapons. For example berserker was buffed, LAW was buffed, machete got a weight reduce, firebug got buffed... While some others got nerfed, its called balancing -_-

What comes to Canyon, if it bothers you so much I can even be generous enough to offer a helping hand at fixing the map so it can be returned to the whitelist assuming the original author isnt around anymore. Oh and, assuming it CAN be fixed, some maps are just plain powerleveling but tbh I dont remember what Canyon is like.

(oh and on a side note, the powerleveling alone isnt the problem, its also the fact how players tend to use the available exploits on pub games and ruin the fun for everyone else who refuse to use such a cheap tactic to beat the game)
 
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