Another cold war?

[Mr.Russian]

...crumbling Russian forces...hm...

Russia is like an enomous mouse trap with free cheese. All the time throughout history it looks poor, helpless and about to collapse. It's never too long before some "smart", technologically "advanced" invader shows up at the Russian border trying to take advantage. They go in... and get fucked... always .

 

[Lionel-RIchie]

Russia is like an enomous mouse trap with free cheese. All the time throughout history it looks poor, helpless and about to collapse. It's never too long before some "smart", technologically "advanced" invader shows up at the Russian border trying to take advantage. They go in... and get fucked... always .

The problem in the book wasn't the training of the Russian forces or anything, it was the fact that China surprised Russia and cut off most of their railroads into the Siberian region, delayed a lot of Russian armor and American armor.

 

[Reddog]

Imagine a ground war between China and Russia, two countries that could trow millions of men at each other...
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[Tomcat_ha]

Russia doesnt have that many men anymore.

 

[Reddog]

Oh yeah?

Googling can tell you alot.

In service: ~1,100,000
Reserve: ~2,000,000
Available conscription pool (males aged 18-49): ~35,000,000

 

[MkH^]

I damn sure hope not, especially if Russia is going to follow the patterns of history, what comes to the relations between us and them. Over the border "democracy" is just a word.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

Oh yeah?

Googling can tell you alot.

In service: ~1,100,000
Reserve: ~2,000,000
Available conscription pool (males aged 18-49): ~35,000,000

Human wave attacks0rama! They sould all be given bolt action rifles again and go at it. (j/j of course, give them muskets).

 

[MercyKiller]

Human wave attacks0rama! They sould all be given bolt action rifles again and go at it. (j/j of course, give them muskets).

and give 1 in 10 men a rifle ...

 

[jedinstven-o crni Wuk]

letz better hope not for a war between russia/america and/or china ... posibiltys woud be high, that its the last war ...

 

[User Name]

There most likely wouldn't be a conventional war between the U.S. and China. China has a population of over a BILLION people. That is a very large population pool to draw troops from. They could use human wave tactics and defeat us eventually. I think it would escalate into a nuclear conflict before the U.S. homeland was invaded.

Of course I don't see a war between the United States and China right now because we are too financially dependant of each other. When U.S. corporations start pulling out of China. Thats when our problems will begin.

 

[Murphy]

War is a question of money rather than a question of available people to waste. Just think about that that a single well equipped soldier can shoot X unarmed enemies without a physical problem. An army is only as good as its equipment. Tanks, planes, ships, cars, fuel, ammo, weapons, buildings, information etc. All those things cost money. Its the money that wins wars, not large armies. We have come to a point where war is more than a senseless the-higher-number-of-people-wins game like "Blitzkrieg 2" or "Age of Empires".
I don

 

[Case]

Of course I don't see a war between the United States and China right now because we are too financially dependant of each other. When U.S. corporations start pulling out of China. Thats when our problems will begin.

When China stops buying billions in US Treasuries, that's when our problems will begin. Luckily at the moment China exports way too much to the US to want to see our economy go in the tank.

Speaking of resource hunger, no one's mentioned India yet. They're huge, they're growing, they're getting smarter and richer and they're a member of the Nuke Club. They've got a long history of problems with China (annexation of bordering countries anyone?). I can see China and India having a border skirmish or two.

 

[dasKaRmA]

yeah , China , Japan and Saudi-Arabia are holding billions of US Treasuries atm.
If they (or only one of them) would sell them, the dollar would fall apart and we would have another world-economy-crisis, like in the twenties.
But this would also hurt the "sellling-country", economicly.

 

[Switchblade]

what has this "what if" got to do with history?

 

[{YBBS}Sage]

So far, it's been the use of historical precedent to try and predict what the future holds.

How's that?

If not, Podium?

 

[Tomcat_ha]

this doesnt fit the podium.

 

[Lizardhands]

I damn sure hope not, especially if Russia is going to follow the patterns of history, what comes to the relations between us and them. Over the border "democracy" is just a word.

Oh, and you think we really have democracy in the West?

Ha!

 

[{YBBS}Sage]

Oh, and you think we really have democracy in the West?

Ha!

Compare it to what they have in the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."

 

[Lizardhands]

True, but still.

We have good rights but lack a good system. Democracy would be everyone deciding what the country does -- not choosing someone to choose for them. Especially when the only choices are so similar.