American Expansion

[shadowraiki]

Story:
It's been months since the initial attacks. Almost all civilization in Europe has either been evacuated or eaten. What remains are the stragglers, police force, and army. But even they are at their limits. The government claimed that it was under control, but clearly it wasn't. Although the infestation had been restrained to certain boundaries, killing all the specimens inside this area was an even harder task, especially with the cloning machines to continuously pump out more and more specimens. The world watched anxiously to see if this would spread to their countries. China, Russia, North Korea, India, Canada... they wondered if they should just launch a few air strikes just to get it over with. Britian fought back. They said that where would all of their citizens go with if there was no where to live? No, each town had to be cleared one by one, building by building, room by room. The other countries refused. They were unwilling to waste resources and troops in someone else's problem and instead opted to strengthen their borders. With no one else to ask, Britain turned to their closed allies: America.

The President had been waiting for this moment all along. He gladly sent support, in the form of both weapons and troops.

New Weapons:
M4A1 Carbine
Perk: Commando
Cost: 650
Weight: 6 Blocks
Ammo: 30 / 9

• This gun is a lot more accurate then the AK-47 and comes equipped with an ACOG scope. Though it may be more accurate it is slightly weaker.

M249 SAW
Perk: Support
Cost: 2500
Weight: 12 Blocks
Ammo: 100 / 4

• Bringing a new meaning to spray and pray. If this is actually added, I hope the LAW will be changed to the Demolition Perk. Support perk will also have to be changed slightly to accomadate this weapon. To balance it out, there will be lots of recoil unless fired from iron sights and in bursts.

M24
Perk: Sharp Shooter
Cost: 2000
Weight: 8 Blocks
Ammo: 5 / 7

• Finally, another sharpshooter weapon that has a scope. Took us long enough to get one of those. This weapon is just a tiny bit weaker than the cross bow but to make up for it can shoot 5 bullets before reloading instead of one, amazing, I know.

RPG-7
Perk: Demolition
Cost: 1000
Weight: 6 Blocks
Ammo: 1 / 14

• Not an American weapon, I know, give me a break. It's hard enough trying to find explosive weapons that Americans use when the LAW is already taken. Was going to put Claymore but what's the point when we have pipe bombs.
• Story: Recently, America had seized hundreds of RPG's and thousands of missiles from their war in the middle east. With this stock pile growing and growing, they decided, what the heck, let's just send it over to Europe.
• It's a lot lighter than the LAW so a second weapon can be carried easily. Also, it's slightly cheaper and will look better. Not only that it flies in more of a straight line than a damn arc.

Phosphorus Bomb
Perk: Firebug
Cost: 300 each (To prevent other classes from buying to many)
Weight: 1 Block (Stack)
Ammo: 1 / 5

• Nasty stuff this is. It literally burns flesh from bones. How this works is that this will take up a slot in the special weapon. You'll switch to them and throw them. This way, you'll have fire grenades and phosphorus bombs.
• Once thrown, they do immediate damage to what ever hit. But a cloud will continue to linger, like when shooting a M79. The cloud will be yellow though and do continuous damage.

GI Shovel
Perk: Berserker
Cost: 200
Weight: 3 Blocks
Ammo: 1

• I doubt people would actually use this since it would be weaker than the katana and chainsaw. I bet a few people would use it for the lulz though. This weapon is a lot stronger than the fire axe though the range is less.
• Primary attack results in the B**** slap. Secondary is a sort of slashing motion, equivalent to slicing the specimen with the edge.

TDI Vector
Perk: Medic
Cost: 4000
Weight: 4 Blocks
Ammo: 30 / 9

• This gun is a lot strong than the MP7, but doesn't shoot as fast. Again, there is a syringe as well but it heals slightly more (like 2 hp per level).
• No I did not think of this due to Modern Warfare 2 thank you very much.

New Characters
Lisa

• As a member of the Red Cross, she volunteered to be sent over to Europe to help take care of civilians. Her family pleaded for her to stay but she refused. Lisa had always loved helping others. When she got to Europe she did her job. Only days later though the camp was over run. Lisa found a gun shoved into her hands and orders to shoot. She was unsure on what to do though. She turned to her superiors to ask what to do but found only his foot. All I have is my instincts I guess, she thought. Lisa pointed the gun at the nearest specimen.
• Like, omg, a female character.

General Wayne

• Some one had to lead the troops there. It was decided that General Wayne would be the one to head to Europe. He refused, claiming that this was basically a death sentence. The army promised a fat check though and after saying a few good byes to his family, boarded the plane. Over the skies though, it was shot down by a chain gun and a rocket. General Wayne managed to survive some how but everyone else had perished. Now it wasn't about the money. Wayne pried the gun from a dead soldier and did what he had been trained for: to kill and survive.

Private Ryan (lol is all I can say)

• Honor, pride, valor. Private Ryan had joined the army for these things exactly. However, he never expected to be sent to Europe. Ryan tried to joke about it, saying that it would be a good experience, see the cities and eat nice food. A great experience indeed. After killing over a thousand specimens, fighting through the remains of London and eating nothing for days, Ryan was more experienced than any 4 star general back in America. He never cursed his luck. A deep feeling opened up in Ryan, maybe killing was fun. There was no better job than this.

Marine Smith

• "The most important job of your life." That's what they had told him. They dropped him off of a helicopter with his squad and gave him the basic instructions, "Kill anything that's not human anymore." There was an overwhelming number of specimens though. Slowly, his men died one by one. And when he was the last one alive, Smith felt like he had nothing to live for. He placed the gun to his head, ready to make peace with God. But something snapped in him. He realized this wouldn't do anything to help his fallen comrades. No, the only thing he could do was kill more and get revenge.

SWAT member John

• Initially sent to only provide back up (seeing as a lot of troops were already in the middle east so more fighters were needed in Europe), he found himself in a much more important role: purging Europe of this god forsaken plague on the front lines. There was already a lack of troops in the field. Now that so many were being eaten, he had to step up and do his job.

So... I hope you actually read that all. If you did, congratulations. Critism is accepted, though don't bash so much please or else I'll strange a kitten . And remember, this is just an idea.

 

[YoYoBatty]

I like it! This may result in some positive feedback from lots of people and, if lucky enough, TWI!

 

[Grimjakk]

Hey well would you look at that I have finaly stopped lurking on the forums lol. But I would say change the RPG-7 to something like the AT4. Due to the fact that the RPG-7 has become less effective as time goes on. Also the rest of it is not a bad idea but I would have to say I would be jazzed out of my pants to be able to use the M4A1 lol.

 

[SMIFF]

Nice little story there lol

 

[-[SiN]-bswearer]

i LOVE this idea. you really did a nice job developing all the backstories, weapons, perks, characters etc.....if down the road TW decides to do a "KF2" or expansion pack of some sort, i'd hope they check out this thread

 

[brphoenix]

Like, omg, a female character.

There. This is enough to make me happy. Seriously. Tits. Here. F*** YEA!

JK

Seems you have good ideas here.

Never had seen someone suggest phosphorous bombs for the firebug. Meh, whateva, all I know is that they sound awesome =D

As for the M4A1... Don't see its usefulness. It's weaker than the AK, so... the ACOG? But long-range firing isn't commando's forte. Unless you also add a different functionality, or whatever.

Oh, I'll be the first to say it. SS weapon "slightly" weaker than crossbow? WAT/
Unless you are talking about raw damage, and ignoring headshot multiplier, then ok. But if it has a slightly weaker headshot multiplier than a crossbow, I guarantee you'll see some people exploding from rage.

 

[Zeptorem]

New Weapons:
M4A1 Carbine
This gun is a lot more accurate then the AK-47 and comes equipped with an ACOG scope. Though it may be more accurate it is slightly weaker.

Sigh...

*shakes head*...

Not an American weapon, I know, give me a break. It's hard enough trying to find explosive weapons that Americans use when the LAW is already taken.

It's not the same LAW. Then again, there's also the SMAW, the AT4, the SRAW, the Javelin, the M202A1...

It's a lot lighter than the LAW so a second weapon can be carried easily. Also, it's slightly cheaper and will look better. Not only that it flies in more of a straight line than a damn arc.

I take it you haven't seen an RPG-7 firing. All unguided rockets fly in an arc, it's unavoidable. That Blackhawk Down/Call of Duty/BF:BC2 nonsense is highly inaccurate (it may also surprise some people that they don't leave highly visible vapour trails either).

No I did not think of this due to Modern Warfare 2 thank you very much.

I do. There are zillions more stylish SMGs that are more aesthetically consistent with Killing Floor (or at least what it used to be, before the katana/SCAR/AA12/EBR). And so few that are used in games.

It seems that ever since that bald idiot on Future Weapons whisper-grimaced about how the Kriss Super V has no recoil (lol) every kid on the internet has jumped on it as the most amazing addition to a nearly-obsolete class of weapons since, like, ever.

Before I put on my bollocking face and give this thread a category-5 bollocking, I'll get this out of the way:

I like the backstory, I like the characters, and I like the general idea.

I don't care for the weapons.

Frankly, I'm sick of current US service weapons being featured in every FPS not set in WWII; in other words, every recent FPS that isn't WaW.

The great thing about Killing Floor is that you're NOT constrained by story or setting to stick to guns that are consistent with either (though I'd personally prefer if more British guns are added, but as we all know Britain is currently gun-free and unerringly safe, that's not totally realistic). You could add some poor SMG that's been in exactly three games ever despite being quite popular in real life. Or an automatic rifle that is quintessentially British and we haven't seen since the last good Call of Duty game (CoD2).

So the backstory needs slight altering. Maybe when the British shout "HELP US MURKA" they could do what they did with the Irish and send a bunch of AR-18s.

Also, do these weapons sufficiently differentiate themselves from existing weapons to warrant adding them to the game, or is it just useless fluff that distracts from the glaring balance problems already present? And why no love for firebug?

 

[brphoenix]

And why no love for firebug?

There is love for him. Phosphorous bombs.

 

[Zeptorem]

There is love for him. Phosphorous bombs.

Oh yes, forgot about those. I was going to mention how I liked the idea.

I still want to see a roofing torch/thermal lance.

 

[brphoenix]

Oh yes, forgot about those. I was going to mention how I liked the idea.

I still want to see a roofing torch/thermal lance.

I think it's the first actually original, well though out idea that both fits the perk and does not invade other's territory since I joined this forum.

 

[KingJoker]

like all the ideas. BUT!


*Dont like lisa P Female characters need more polling!)

*M24, in my opinion should work like this = About same headshot damage or even more, the scope shakes and moves around like the scar, instead of deadly accuracy like the crossbow. then i think its perfect mwahaha!!!
and the shovel will be my best friend.... since if im correct? Isn't it like nearly weightless O_O

 

[acolyte_to_jippity]

ok, M4A1 becomes 3-round burst, alt fire to switch to full auto. 3-round would be significantly more accurate than most other assault rifles, HOWEVER burn through ammo faster. a lv. 6 w/ bull pup could make his ammo last farther if very accurate.

****, why not just make the M4 into an Xm8?

 

[dogbadger]

....
Frankly, I'm sick of current US service weapons being featured in every FPS not set in WWII; in other words, every recent FPS that isn't WaW....

not just you it seems...

Story:
..... The other countries refused. They were unwilling to waste resources and troops in someone else's problem and instead opted to strengthen their borders. With no one else to ask, Britain turned to their closed allies: America.....

'Sir, I must insist - now is the time to call Washington.'

'Wait. Not yet. M4 Carbines bore me bloody sh1tless. Give Botswana another ring.'

 

[YFGHNG]

Isn't it like nearly weightless O_O

No, shovels are not "nearly weightless"

 

[HaTeMe]

and the shovel will be my best friend.... since if im correct? Isn't it like nearly weightless O_O

If you were thinking about something like this

Then yeah its nearly weightless.

REAL shovels are not, tho. Would weight more than the katana.

I love the shovel idea btw. And the expansion idea, I might not agree with ALL the weapons and such but yeah, an expansion with a new story would be awesome.

 

[shadowraiki]

Alright thanks for the feed back guys. This was just a rough idea in my mind that I wanted to jot down and share so nothing is final. As for my choice of weapons, I couldn't really think of any "true" American weapons that much. I was trying to find weapons that when people thought of the American Army, these would pop up first.

I know a lot of people have been resistant to the M4A1 since it's in every single game, but so has the AK-47. You can switch it out with the M16 (which I personally hate more) but I just wanted to make every class happy. The army also uses the Scar (I think) but we already have a Scar. Could add a Scar-L instead, have two scars... this one's open for debate.

For demo weapon, who knows. I was thinking AT4 but I didn't know if it was American or not. Javelin and Stinger can't be used in KF so this is open for debate too. A lot of space for this one.

M24 will work like this. If cross bow does 85 damage, M24 will do 80 where as m14 might do 75. Head shot multipliers are still the same, xbow > 510, m24 > 480. It can one hit ko scrakes in the head but not flesh pounders (I hope we can change the damage to do that). Also, maybe a double zoom scope for true sharp shooting?

And for the shovel, I was thinking one of those small shovels that you can make longer and shorter. That's why it has a shorter range.

If I forgot to addess anything else I apologize.

 

[vealck]

I'll always welcome new arsenal with joy, if it has some sense. Things You proposed do not fill any new roles, but still provide some variety, which could be nice.

-M4A1 would be great with night-ops system (I proposed such weapon here http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=40226). In this case it would fill some unique role.
-I would rather see PSG-1 instead of M24.
-B**ch slapping zeds with a shovel is funny idea

Little criticism: characters you proposed seem like cardboard cut-outs and TDI Vector is just fugly.

 

[KingJoker]

No, shovels are not "nearly weightless"

The us shovel is a a portable shovel lol and it folds up kind of it looks like a square xD of some sort thats why im asking if its weightless.

 

[mamoo]

American Expansion

Noooooooo!!!

 

[HaTeMe]

The us shovel is a a portable shovel lol and it folds up kind of it looks like a square xDweightless.

Oh that one. We have those in the military too, I still remember digging those 1,5m deep holes in the ground and hitting a rock every time.

But I assumed he was talking about actual shovels.