Allow tanks to carry soldiers

[Nar6]

The title says all!

As you all know, the russian territory is huge.. Thats why soldiers, after a long day of fighting, were tired and they liked to go on a tank to move faster!
It was really dangerous, but they were too slow when walking in the snow of the general winter

I think it would be pretty cool if it was possible in the game!

What do you think about it?

 

[dogbadger]

I don't think Russ soldiers were traveling on tanks in normal circumstances anywhere near frontline fighting, and as it appears HoS will involve smallish tight focused maps (and may be infantry only for that matter) i don't think it would be worth the coding effort as it would be somewhat inappropriate.
i mean, unless i've got this wrong, HoS isn't going to feature a large expansive battlefield like arma.

 

[Nar6]

You are right but the battle of stalingrad didnt take place only in the city..
The german army lost because russians surrended them by attacking around the city with massive forces.
Thats why i hope we wont fight all the time in Stalingrad!

 

[Zetsumei]

If there are tanks in rohos, I think there will be tank riding. As the game might feature more of the fighting in the outskirts.

 

[<animal>INSTINCT]

would be a cool addition for any maps on the outskirts of the city, I'd love to be able to just ride up on a tank in a combined arms map instead of having to run for 2 mins to get to the front

 

[Nezzer]

I'd love to see something like this scene:
YouTube - Stalingrad [1993] Tank Scene (English Subtitles)

And I also thing tank riders should be able to fire their weapons while riding. It's kinda stupid riding on a tank with enemies around and not being able to shoot back.

 

[skittlesareyum47]

Maybe there should be that anti tank grenade with the other grenade heads tied to it like in that scene. And in response to the tank idea, don't they already have that? Or maybe that is only of the custom maps.

 

[Dwin]

Being able to shoot while riding on a tank sounds like recipe for rambo.

 

[Nezzer]

Being able to shoot while riding on a tank sounds like recipe for rambo.

But who the hell would ride a tank unarmed while under fire? The accuracy would be really poor anyway. It's pretty dumb. In a halftrack or in a a bren carrier you're are protected from bullets at least, but while riding on a tank you are completely exposed.

 

[fredkruge]

But who the hell would ride a tank unarmed while under fire? The accuracy would be really poor anyway. It's pretty dumb. In a halftrack or in a a bren carrier you're are protected from bullets at least, but while riding on a tank you are completely exposed.

who the hell is still riding the tank while next to enemies? As you noticed in the clip, they jumped off just before they hit the front lines. + in a game like RO because you cant just regen HP magically, people will jump off the tank even before the front line because of MG/rifle fire. Idea is fine, but no firing while on vehicles... I mean, you need 2 hands to fire rifles/assault rifles (even inaccurately) and how are you supposed to hold on so you dont fall off?

 

[dogbadger]

ok forget about HoS for a min, as i'm generally not one to complain about realism in games and the feature worked ok when introduced by AHz in larger CA maps for RO.

- but can someone confirm that infantry rode on tanks when they were aware that there was any chance of being fired upon?

cos it goes against what i've read in in too many ww2 books to count or remember - that tanks did not carry infantry near combat zones in normal circumstances.

 

[RedGuardist]

- but can someone confirm that infantry rode on tanks when they were aware that there was any chance of being fired upon?

In war there happens most irrational incidents. But riding tanks when being under fire/having a change to become under fire must have been a very rare exeption, since it

 

[Zetsumei]

i dont think you should fire on top of those tanks you don't want people to use it for any laming. But point in fact is in the real world people would walk half an hour to a battlefield and in a game people do not want to walk more than 1 minute to get to action.

So transport will get used closer to the action than in reality. People are willing to risk more. As generic transport I think tankriding is more accurate than having a universal carrier with free space for every russian on the front.

 

[RedGuardist]

I did not mean, that there shouldn

 

[O'Shannon]

i'd like to see tank-riding, too.
i would even wellcome the ability to shoot,change weapons, throw nades, almost everything inf can do.

but there should be some viewshake/tremble + some blur while riding the tank.

that plus some rough tank movement having impact on your view(small lean effect during direction changes), should limit the range of effectively killing someone near the tank to about ~10-15m(~30-45feet) every kill futher away would be just pure luck and very rare ...

 

[skittlesareyum47]

Just for some authentic footage of this being done...YouTube - Stalingrad 1942-1943

skip to 2:26 to see it.

But despite this, I think they only did this UP TO the lines, they didn't travel like this in battle I don't think. Maybevfor some maps like a recreation of Arad, where there were big open spaces, where this was used. But if it is in a Stalingrad map, that'd just be plain dumb.

 

[kid Charlemagne]

tank riding was pretty common, the soviets used it allot in their winter campaigns so soldiers could get close to the enemy without getting stuck in the snow.
getting infantery up to the front line together with tanks makes the tank atack much more efficient and increases the success ratio.
offcourse, many of the riders died horribly but you cant make an omelet without braking eggs, right?

In sven hazzels slightly inaccurate books, (a good read anyway)
there are several stories of panzergrenadiers riding on tanks even during city battles, they where pretty safe behind the cannon-turret as long as the driver stayed on course.
riding on tanks where also important to protect the tank from grenades and mines used by infantry and antitank soldiers.

might not seem like a good idea from a individual point of view, but im pretty sure the German and soviet high command didn't care about a few soldiers getting roasted, human lives where pretty cheap in those days.

 

[OneBloodyHero]

Infantry rode on tanks to get closer to the enemy. They did not engage the enemy from tanks. They would disembark if they made contact, or when they got close to the front. Tanks virtually served as trucks, but more importantly, gave tanks immediate infantry support by having passengers. If troops on tanks took fire, they did because they were ambushed or were stupid. They would not fight from tanks, at least in normal situations without extenuating circumstances.

 

[RedGuardist]

In sven hazzels slightly inaccurate books.

That

 

[baff]

Just model it so that people can ride on them please. And shoot too if possible.

Allow people to continue this tactical discussion inside the simulation.