AK vs Scar?
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Yep, SCAR is weaker now than before. But that's because commando should combine two automatic guns. Like AK47 and Bullpup, SCAR and AK47 or other.
And don't shoot with the same gun whole wave?
SCAR was a bit powerful, but now it's too weak. Now even AK47 looks better. More rounds in magazine, better price and almost same damage as SCAR.
Best idea was to reduce magazines to 10 and slightly reduce the damage IMO.
And don't shoot with the same gun whole wave?
SCAR was a bit powerful, but now it's too weak. Now even AK47 looks better. More rounds in magazine, better price and almost same damage as SCAR.
Best idea was to reduce magazines to 10 and slightly reduce the damage IMO.
I think the answer is to rebuff the Scar, not nerf the AK. Commando is already becoming harder to use then the other perks (I'm not gonna say underpowered since people will just argue "Well I can still use it well!").
Hell no to rebuff. Comfortable middle at most. Max damage should be about 65, but definately no higher than 70. Commando is good at doing his job, and his job isn't to take out the big boys, its to take out the stuff following in behind them.
Harder =/= less useful.
Well its about on par with the Ak in terms of damage per clip. Per bullet the scar deals more damage, but since the Ak can decap pretty much the same specimens anyway I do see your point. Although the Scars DPS is a fair way higher. Admittedly the cost is still a bit steep but I rather like the fact you go for more ammo or higher DPS.
That being said, I'm just 1 person, so to compromise I'd say give the Scar a slight damage buff (to 65) over what it is now (58 I believe), but definately don't rebuff it. At least at 65 it will have enough of a kick to 1 shot crawlers on hard mode. Against the Ak at 45, Scar at 65 seems reasonable.
That being said, I'm just 1 person, so to compromise I'd say give the Scar a slight damage buff (to 65) over what it is now (58 I believe), but definately don't rebuff it. At least at 65 it will have enough of a kick to 1 shot crawlers on hard mode. Against the Ak at 45, Scar at 65 seems reasonable.
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Well they could make the Scar cheaper althought it's pretty cheap already when you're a level 6 commando. Today I had like 700 kills on mountainpass while the second guy had 200-300. The commando is basically a support class for longer distances. To kill everything except scrake and fp, althought when you buy a katana you can easely kill scrakes too (at least for now).
Since they changed the money system (money by damage, not by kill) I have enough money to buy a Scar at the end of the second or third wave.
I read the AK does more damage in one mag because the bullets are weaker but it has more bullets in a mag.
I use the AK, Scar and katana and I just switch around the whole time. Shoot a bit with the AK, shoot a bit with the Scar, chop a bit with the katana. If a see a large group of specimen close to me I use my AK and when I see one far away I use my Scar. The Scar nerf is noticeable but the Commando is anything but useless.
Since they changed the money system (money by damage, not by kill) I have enough money to buy a Scar at the end of the second or third wave.
I read the AK does more damage in one mag because the bullets are weaker but it has more bullets in a mag.
I use the AK, Scar and katana and I just switch around the whole time. Shoot a bit with the AK, shoot a bit with the Scar, chop a bit with the katana. If a see a large group of specimen close to me I use my AK and when I see one far away I use my Scar. The Scar nerf is noticeable but the Commando is anything but useless.
before i just used the Ak if i ever ran out of scar ammo - now i keep it in auto and switch to it for close combat panic stations if something breaks through - the difference is so slight..
.High price : Bad
.Magazines (15) : Good
.Damage : Weak (Against harder specimens)
.Shots per mag : Not too much
Sightly nerfed , atleast they could decrease the price a little. Would make it more handy for Non-Commandos , but then it'll be to cheap for Commandos ...
Simple , AK-47>Nerfed Scar
.Magazines (15) : Good
.Damage : Weak (Against harder specimens)
.Shots per mag : Not too much
Sightly nerfed , atleast they could decrease the price a little. Would make it more handy for Non-Commandos , but then it'll be to cheap for Commandos ...
Simple , AK-47>Nerfed Scar
The way I see it, if the Scar is rebuffed it still won't be good versus the big guys due to their now increased head health. It's relatively high price also requires some significant bonus for the gun to be 'worth it'.
Finally, you're telling me the Commando should be so poor at Scrake-busting when Sharpshooter still has his crowd-clearing pistol bonuses and M14? Sharpie and Commando are like yin and yang, except 2/3's of the circle is black. (Bad analogy I know, but you get my point)
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Yes it's useless, yes enough people point that out so something will probably (hopefully) be done about it during the beta.
Last I heard from Yosh, SCAR isn't being touched.
Probably going to get hell for this but the SCAR is fine. AK is better suited for burst fire, SCAR has a scope and is better for single-shotting targets.
Probably going to get hell for this but the SCAR is fine. AK is better suited for burst fire, SCAR has a scope and is better for single-shotting targets.
I really hope you heard wrong.
They should at least consider it for one build of the beta. I can't count how many players and posts I've seen complaining about the Scar, it's way more then the number of "Scar was OP" complaints I saw before.
The original purpose of the Scar nerf doesn't even exist anymore now that the Scrake and FP have better head health.
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yeah exactly what i've found - they work fine like this as a pair -
i do understand however ppl using the bullpup instead though if the ak is now your high rof x damage emergency weapon anyway - as the sa80 is perfectly capable of those controlled single shots at the lesser stuff.
If anything, the scar could regain an advantage, that warrants it's price, by having a true scope instead of an aimpoint.
In that regard I am a bit disappointed that the game doesn't have the L85 with susat tbh.
It sucks now. The old SCAR was perfect. Good damage with a slow reload. Now it's crap damage with a slow reload. No thanks. I stick with pup and ak now, play on suicidal, and have no issues. I have used pup up to wave 8, but generally AK snipe the first wave, then keep pup as a panic weapon, using AK as main.
I really hope you heard wrong.
Doubtful. I asked him if anything was being done to the SCAR and he said no then switched to Commando and rocked face with it for a few waves.
I used to want the SCAR buffed too, but I've thought about it and I've realized that it's fine. It can still one-shot all the crappy zeds. What more do you guys want?
I don't want it "buffed" per se. It just needs to have a different use than the AK. At the moment, it's only marginally better, but costs a lot more.
I used to roll with the Scar + Pup, but now I just use AK + Pup 99% of the time.