AK vs AR vs Mosin nagant

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CandleJack

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I am disappoint.

The Mosin has both a magazine and a safety.
The latter takes all your strength and a 2x4 to operate, but 'tis there nonetheless.
 

Peter.Steele

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I am disappoint.

The Mosin has both a magazine and a safety.
The latter takes all your strength and a 2x4 to operate, but 'tis there nonetheless.


There is a feature there that is purported to be a safety, yes. But jesus god, it's the most unsafe part of the gun. I think I'd rather just stand in front of it and have someone pull the trigger. I know what's going to happen then ...
 

CandleJack

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There is a feature there that is purported to be a safety, yes. But jesus god, it's the most unsafe part of the gun. I think I'd rather just stand in front of it and have someone pull the trigger. I know what's going to happen then ...

Well that's ironic.
 

CandleJack

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I found this today.

Seems appropriate.

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Peter.Steele

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What if you have both AR's and Mosins? I've got 5 Mosins (I think), and 2 1/2 AR-15's. (Of course, even the 1/2 AR cost roughly the same as all 5 Mosins put together ... )


Also, it's worth noting that everyone in the AR-15 column is rocking the beard ...
 

theta123

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if its nazi zombie war, i rather have a mosin then a AR 15 :D
With my trusty bayonet, i can kill a zombie across the street
 

Alexander Ostmann

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if its nazi zombie war, i rather have a mosin then a AR 15 :D
With my trusty bayonet, i can kill a zombie across the street
I'd take an AR15 any day in a zombie apocalypse. Extremely reliable, accurate, easy to disassemble, very comfortable, and long lasting! I'd assume zombies aren't smart enough to put on kevlar, so penetration isn't a concern. AR15 in a zombie apocalypse all the way!
 

theta123

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I'd take an AR15 any day in a zombie apocalypse. Extremely reliable, accurate, easy to disassemble, very comfortable, and long lasting! I'd assume zombies aren't smart enough to put on kevlar, so penetration isn't a concern. AR15 in a zombie apocalypse all the way!

i would never ever have an AR15.. sorry but if truly an zombie war comes, i have a PPSH, mosin nagant or AK47.
Place AK47 on single and shot for shot you'll kill those wrethced zombies way better then pea shooter AR15
 

theta123

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Problem with that is you have to let them get a LOT closer to you if you want to hit them.

An AK is accurate enough as long as you stick to semi auto
well depends What AK you fire :D

I fired a Polish AK in Poland, and i had great results :D. Fired a Russian AKM also nice results...

North korean AK....My god..
 

Alexander Ostmann

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No, it isn't dependent on how you fire it. It's just the nature of the weapon and the caliber. Max effective range is usually about 300-400m. Troops overseas can literally stand in the open while insurgents' bullets land at their feet because AKs just can't reach them. An AR15 is by no means a pea shooter against an unarmored target like a zombie.
 

theta123

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No, it isn't dependent on how you fire it. It's just the nature of the weapon and the caliber. Max effective range is usually about 300-400m. Troops overseas can literally stand in the open while insurgents' bullets land at their feet because AKs just can't reach them. An AR15 is by no means a pea shooter against an unarmored target like a zombie.

I think not, the 5.56x45 is a heavily criticized round by troops all over the world. Many tests have shown that the 5.56x45 is accurate yes, but fails to inflict proper damage beyond 200 meter. Testings done has shown that a 5.56 has very bad fragmenting when it hits a target, also when the bullet impacts beyond 100 meter there's a high chance the bullet wont "Yawn" when hitting a target

Also insurgents are poorly to not trained persons. It is not the rifle alone, it is the person who has trained with the rifle, who has adjusted the sights to his specifications and so on.
But be damned sure that NATO soldiers are scared off the insurgents armed with lee enfields or mosin nagants. Many casualties has fallen to these WW1/2 era bolt action rifles.

Why do you think Troops are begging for the new 6.8x45 SPC?
 
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