[Sport] Airsoft Field Gear and Weapons

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kapulA

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Regarding the BBs - it depends on how much FPS (feets-per-second) your gun shoots at - generally if it's between 350 and 400 FPS you should go for the .25 BBs since you won't lose a noticeable amount of range and your shots will fly straighter.
Regarding the hi-caps - have you thought about mid-caps? Most of the hi-caps I've seen require you to wind them up after a set amount of BBs fired, which can be quite distracting during a firefight, while mid-caps don't have that problem. And if you're not some trigger-happy psycho the 140 or so capacity of 2 mid-caps should be more than enough for any regular match you might play - if you're thinking of doing mil-sim right away, which I doubt, you would be advised to buy a higher number of mid-caps.
And I (or anyone I ever played with) have never had to change a battery during a match, unless it was faulty. Generally, charging it the night before you are going out airsofting should be more than enough.

Hope I was helpful.
 

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.25 do have also the advatange it might save you from unnecessary hopup issues. I've yet to get .2 fly straight with my M14 or VSR no matter how much I kept adjusting the hophup, it always ended up flying in hilarious curves as the BB was self-conscious.

That reminds me I should finish one Vietnam set I have been planning for already over a year but only got some rough basics. Some real collectibles have been eating money, like DDR officer parade stuff :D
 
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EvilAmericanMan

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Alrighty then I'll go with the .25g. But with the mags, I have found $15 hi-cap mags made by CYMA...makes me wonder the quality of them though, because the cheapest mid caps are also around that $15-20 range, at least on AirsoftGI. But they are recommended to be used with D-boy along with a few other brands so compatibility should not be an issue. I'm thinking of buying two, because I get the impression that the lower-end AEGs have really cheap mags that are broken easily (that's what I've seen on a lot of reviews for different AEGs anyway.) Then again I may only need one extra (using the mag that comes with the gun as a backup in case anything happens) since kapula is recommending mid caps. I guess the one 600 rd hi-cap I linked is enough? Or should I go with a more expensive one? Because the CYMA one SAYS that it is wood..but the pic sure doesn't look like wood to me!

Just thought... perhaps by wood its talking about the magazine matching with the AK-74s with real wood? I don't get it...in that case why aren't the magazines more compatible with each other and other weapons based on them? They have more M4 and M4 based models than you can shake a damn stick at, and those seem to be very interchangeable with magazines and other things...

Also..I saw a review on a slightly more expensive AK-74 hi-cap mag...the guy has an Echo 1 AKS-74UN and he said that the CYMA is a much better buy for an AKS owner, he said that the slightly more expensive one didn't fit his gun well at all. Plus the CYMA one is cheaper to boot (also holds less BBs in it). lol
 
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Grobut

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Here's some tips then:

BB's:

Never buy your BB's too cheap, it might seem like a saving at first, but they are cheap for a reason, some of them may not be perfectly spherical, and if one jams itself in the hop-unit it can strip your gears or the piston, and they have been known to damage the hop unit and inner barrel aswell, all of which will cost a fair bit to get repaired.. it's just not worth it, good quality BB's are not all that expensive, but AEG repairs certainly can be!

0.25g BB's are definately the standard, they just plain perform better in an AEG than the 0.20's, hence 0.25's are the most popular, but it's a good idea to also have some 0.28g's in reserve, on a really windy day, that extra bit of BB weight can easilly be the difference of hitting the target, or watching the BB's sail past the guy due to a cheeky side wind.. they are not a requirement, but nice to have!

Batteries:

Don't cheap out on thease either, or the charger for that matter, this is where the AEG gets its power from, so using a crummy battery is a bit like wading into combat with damp gunpowder, and you will be dissapointed with the guns performance, moreso because you will be needing the stick-type battery in that 74U, thease are small cells, so they have to be of good quality to do anything usefull.

You can ofcourse use the supplied one just to get into the game and get a feel for it, but replacing it with a good one is undoubtedly the best upgrade you can do for this gun, and i would highly recommend it.

I'd recommend replacing it with a 9.6v stick battery, made of cells that deliver atleast 1500mAh, sticks made of "Elite 1500mAh NiMH" cells are excellent, i use them myself, but i can also recommend sticks made of "Intellect 1600mAh NiMH" cells, both of thease cells deliver lots of power, and they won't get sluggish untill they are allmost compleately drained, they are ideal for Airsoft use.

And get a good charger that can detect the voltage it needs to supply, and most importantly, will automatically stop charging when the battery is full, a bad charger can quickly ruin an excellent battery, so it is not a place you want to save money, it will cost you more in the long run, constantly replacing broken batteries aint cheap..

Magazines:

As a genereal rule of thumb with Airsoft AK magazines, you can cheap out on hi-caps and Low-caps, but not on Mid-caps, cheap mid-caps tend to be very.. rubbish.

If you want to keep things cheap in the beginning, go for some Hi-caps, the CYMA ones seem to work fine in standard guns (they do have feeding problems in hi-speed tuned guns though), they rattle, they need to be wound up, and i woulden't recommend dropping them on concrete, but they work and they don't cost much, so it's a good place to start if your on a budget (and with hi-caps, you only need one or two, so you don't have to invest in mag-pouches or chest-rigs, which lo and mid caps will require).

But eventually, you will probably get sick of hi-caps, most people do, and by then, you should know better if you want to spend more money on the hobby or not.. and if you do, i'd recommend you get some G&P or VFC AK-74 mid-caps, they cost a bit, but they are worth it, they are sturdy, they feed well, and they look quite good too, so they are worth having.

Safety:

Forget the goggles, Airsoft guns wont just damage eyes, they will also break teeth and earlobes, and as a beginner, you will make beginners mistakes and get shot a lot, so my recommendation would be to start out with a full face mask, Airsoft should be fun, not a painfull reminder of how you lost two front teeth, so better safe than sorry.

Goggles are an option, but not a cheap one if you want to be kind to your face, as you will need a lower of some sort, be it a Nomex lower + toothguard, or the cut-out lower of a full mask, or one of thouse special mesh lowers.. well, neither of them are cheap.

Also, avoid masks/goggles with mesh infront of the eyes instead of hard plastic lenses, mesh works fine for Paintball, but Airsoft BB's will shatter when they hit it, and tiny bits of BB debree can penetrate the mesh and hit your eyes, so yeah.. not the safest thing.

Gun care:

Stop shooting if BB's are nolonger leaving the barrel, AEG's do not like to be dry-fired, they will break if you do it for too long, also, stop shooting emediately if the gun suddenly changes sound (be it that the report sounds more hollow, more like a thud, if the motor seems to make a strange squeal, or you hear strange grinding noises, anything along thouse lines), this is allways bad news, it means something is stuck, broken or about to break.
If it happens, check if the barrel/hop is obstructed, if it is you can clear the obstruction and keep playing, if not, the problem is in the gearbox, and the best you can do is call it a day and go get it fixed, because if you ignore the problem and keep shooting, then whatever has broken will fail and take something else with it, making the repair costs much worse..

The hop unit contains a small rubber tube, and like all rubber, it dries out and cracks if left to it's own devices, to stop this happening, we use Scilicone oil to lube it, that stops it drying out.
They sell the stuff in all Airsoft shops, but they also charge an arm and leg for it, you can buy it much cheaper at your local hardware store, just make sure it's "Acid-free", and it'll be the exact same stuff you buy in Airsoft shops, just much cheaper! considder that my super-saver tip of the day!


And that's really it then, remember to call your hits, nobody likes a cheat, but everyone likes a good sport, treat your gun with respect, it may be "a toy" but it doesen't look like one, so try not to get into trouble.. and above all, have fun, because that's the whole point of Airsoft ;)
 
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EvilAmericanMan

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Dang man, thanks bunches. I've adjusted my purchases accordingly (slightly better BBs, found the exact battery you were talking about, ditched the goggles for a full mask, it was even $5 cheaper than just the plain goggles...go figure.) Hell I'll copy-paste your post into a notepad document, lol. Appreciate the time you've taken.

But I'm now a little confused about the charger. A charger is included with the gun, and I'd hate to have two chargers that can do the job equally. Should I go ahead and buy something like this anyway? I get a feeling the AKS I'm buying will come with a weaker battery (don't know why it doesn't say what voltage it is on the gun's page) and probably a charger that is just good enough to get the job done. I may be getting a lower-end rifle but as you say, gotta treat em right and like real weapons :D
 

Grobut

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The supplied charger is utter tat, the second the gun arrives, you should rip open the packaging, locate the charger, and toss it out the window before it's presense can cheapen the feel of your purchase!

No really, it's bad, it probably only charges 8.4v, and it doesen't stop charging when the battery is full, so it can ruin your batteries if you leave it on too long.

Now the one you linked to would get the job done, but 9.6v seems to be it's max, and it's nice to have a charger that can handle a bit more than you need, and it's a manual one, you'd have to dial in what you need and all that, so from the same site, i found this which will probably serve you better:
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_74&products_id=3358[/URL]
It's rated for more voltage, it's an automatic, and it's even a bit cheaper, it seems to be a good purchase i'd say, it's a bit basic, but it does what you need it to, and doesen't require you know anything about batteries to opperate it.


Ohh, and as for BB's, i can recommend the brand "G&G", they make good 0.25's at a very reasonable price, i've never had a problem when using them.
 

EvilAmericanMan

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OK thanks I'll get that instead. Unfortunately it is out of stock on Airsoft GI, I've found it in stock on another site...hopefully by the time i order its in stock but that kinda sucks that I have to deal with two separate orders. But such is life!

So I think I'm all set. Going to order next Monday or Tuesday, when I'll have sufficient funds. Can't friggin wait >_< I'm going to make a little wooden case for my gun, save $25 that i would pay for a gun bag plus the satisfaction of something made from scratch. Will post pics of it when its done! Probably 2-3 weeks from now. Thanks again Grobut for your help (and Kapula in IRC :D)
 

Grobut

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It's been a while since we had any pictures in this thing, and since i just got done with my AK-74N project, i might aswell post them:

74bild2.jpg

KobraRight.jpg

Kobra-Left2.jpg

Kobra-vs-Pkav2.jpg

Kobra-vs-Pkav1.jpg


Also pictured is the Kobra EKP-1S-03 sight, and my AKMN with PK-AV sight for comparison.

All the wood is Real-Steel, as are the sights.
 

EvilAmericanMan

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Damn man those are SEX-Y :p All the AKS' were out on Airsoft GI when I first looked so I was going to buy an AK-74N. Then fortunately found the carbine version. Still have a full sized 74 on my future wish list as well as an MP5 and M4 variant of some kind.

But anyway that is some master work right there, so what exactly did you do to them?
 

Grobut

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Heh, quite a bit actually, they are both LCT kits, so i got them partially assembled with no innards, and modified and installed various parts i wanted.

Internals:

Prometheous tightbore barrels.
TM Hopunits with Guarder rubber.
Action 9mm steel bushing gearboxes.
Potmetal topcover release buttons replaced with LCT steel ones.
Prometheous m130 full tuneup kits.
Guarder M120 springs.
Systema Magnum motors.
9.6v Elite 1500mAh NiMH stick batteries.

Externals:

LCT AK kits.
All parts rubbed down with an abbrasive pad covered in gunoil to weather the blued finish.
Real AK furniture sets modified extensively to fit the Airsoft bodies.
Supplied 800m rear sights replaced with propper 1000m rear sights from VFC.
Black foam rubber cut and inserted into magwells so magazines fit tightly, and dirt can't enter the gun from the magwell.
All parts assembled and checked for leaks and a solid fit.
G&P mid-cap magazines.


So a fair bit of disposable income and effort went into them, but the end result speaks for itself..
 

Grobut

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Now that's what I call optimism :eek:

Heh, yeah, but it's the standard rear sight on all Russian AKM's and 74's, the old 800m type was only used on the 47, hence they had to be replaced for the sake of realism.

But i rarely use the ironsights, actually, only when i do a bit of target shooting with them, since the law here demands we wear full-face masks in Airsoft (only a few Mil-sim events have gotten a dispensation from that rule), the mask prevents me from getting a cheekweld on the stocks, and i actually can't get my eye low enough to use them, ergo the need for the red-dots, thouse i can see with a mask on.
 

kapulA

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I've tried both, but I find airsoft more appealing because of the greater realism and replica guns. And also getting hit hurts less. :p
 

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with out the pain you dont get the same adrenaline rush!!!!

Ive started playing paintball alot, very awesome fun. With airsoft, if yuor hit on say a mag holder, how do you know your hit?? What stop you cheating? The honour system does not work in any competitive thing. ever.
 

kapulA

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Well, we didn't have a lot of problems with the honour system when we played, but I can see your point. You can usually hear or feel when you're hit in the mag holder, and when you do get hit there, it's likely to be a spray so you'll probably get hit in the arms or some other exposed area as well.

Edit: And regarding the adrenaline rush, it's there just as it is in paintball - once you are actually hit it doesn't matter if it hurts a lot or little, since you're out and there's no point in all the adrenaline. :)
 
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