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Ads in the lobby now?

DietOrange

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 31, 2008
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I don't mind them at all can't believe anyone is complaing about it.
Just about every website I visit during the day has ads for all kinds of things and I don't sh1t the bed when I see them.

I don't even care what they display even now TWI stuff.
 

Steg

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 10, 2009
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If you are going to mock us, at least be fair about it.
I'm not mocking anything. I'm just saying that while I could be unabashedly enthusiastic about promoting your game before, now I have to add caveats. If someone is rabidly against in-game ads, this game is no longer for them.

I'm also not whining about the packs, I bought the last one even though I don't use the skins because I wanted to support the company. But there are people who have a moral issue with paid extras. (Much easier to see their side of things with games that remove content at launch to get paid: dragon age, star craft; and half-finished games with paid sequels: HL2, L4D) If I'm going to encourage someone to check out the game, I'd rather them know ahead of time that A) there's paid DLC, and B) it's just skins.

every video that goes into KF will be personally authorized by either myself or WilsonAM.
If this is true, and remains true after the checks start coming in, then it probably wont be a big deal to most people. (You should sneak in some ads from Magnum Research and FN!)

Just to be clear: I like the game, and like the developers, I'm just disappointed in the direction they're taking.
 

gusone

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 2, 2009
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Sidcup
steamcommunity.com
Newsflash! If someone is not going to play a game because of video ads in the lobby they see while others are still loading the game they were never going to play the game in the first place. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at comments like that.
 

Katana

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 14, 2009
59
0
0
I dislike advertising in games, but not blindly. This is one of the better uses; it's stuff we actually MIGHT be interested in, and it's not intrusive. Besides, with the amount of stuff TW added to the game, I'd say it's deserved they get some 'DOSH' in return.

One tip I might make; you can look at our Steam account information, at least to a degree, so what might be good is if ads for games/packs we already own are excluded. (if we own Red Orchestra, don't show ads for it)
 

Yoshiro

In Soviet Russia, Yoshiro is a cake
Staff member
Oct 10, 2005
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We are watching the community feedback from this.

Now I've seen some people upset about the EULA changes and not be anonymous. As far as I've read and been told by the people on high, the most it does is a partial IP check to identify individual users and general region.

Another issue I've seen raised is "this is just for profit". That is incorrect. Almost nothing Tripwire does is just for pure monetary gain to pad somebodies wallet. Game sales get shoveled into the development of the next game, and as with the character packs this is another way that is being tied to continued support for KF. I believe Alan will have a larger post up later at his blog on this. But the long and the short of it is, Tripwire isn't done with KF yet and has some more things planned :)
 

Steg

FNG / Fresh Meat
Aug 10, 2009
133
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Terrier

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jun 8, 2009
96
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Germany
TWI, i think its safe to say that we all, as a community of KF players, want to see hot chicks showing their goods during these advertisements. if you can make this very tasty you will be making me very happy because this is what KF is missing.

i prefer eastern european women, just in case.
Something like this, I presume:

And a slogan like:
"Join the russian army"
or
"Avtomat Kalashnikov - The choice of russian women"
:D


About the ads in the lobby:
As long as TWI don't start to advertise viagra, or other sh*t not-FPS-/-gaming-stuff it's ok for me.
 

Das Bose

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 8, 2009
1,572
867
0
Sunny Scarborough
If the video was on a screen 'between' screens that I had to sit and look at to get to the game, then I would be moaning, but it isn't so I'm quite happy ;)

It's just a little ironic that I have been playing the game in the video for years :D
 
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chungmasta

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 23, 2009
26
0
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Yeah I agree with most people. Ads are just a part of reality. Just as long as you don't force me to watch the whole thing to play, I don't mind.
 

breadtruck

Active member
Nov 21, 2005
770
84
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Wisconsin, USA
It doesnt bother me. Im normally looking at what class to choose anyways, so I only hear it playing

There are servers running more annoying things on them that this ever will be
 
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Sammers

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jul 2, 2009
1,647
547
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Scotland
But I don't want to be getting ready to start a round only to be interrupted by someone telling me about the great taste of Coca Cola.
Hey, don't be dissing Coca Cola :p Sometimes, it's just the best thing to be drinking.

Also, why are players becoming really **** about sound nowadays? I've watched around 4 of my friends playing games on their PCs, who have recently started complaining about noise if something is so much as one microdecibel louder than it'd need to be to be heard clearly. Of course, I tell them to bloody man up and crank their sound up to 11.....it makes the whole experience a lot better. Also, can't say the sound bothers me. People should just listen a bit harder. I guess if a mute button on the ad box makes more players happy though, I'm all for it.
 

Katana

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 14, 2009
59
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Actually, one tiny issue I had with the video was just the positioning, at least on 1440x900. If someone does voice chat or enters in text chat, then their portrait appears on the left. But with the video there, the edge of that portrait goes behind it. If the video were moved just a tiny bit to the right it would work better, though it might lose alignment with the player list.

EDIT: If you have ever read a book on the history of advertising, you would know that Coca Cola are the GENIUSES of subtle branding. About 90% of Americans think of Coca Cola when they see the right colors combined with the right vague style of glass bottle. There is far more Coca Cola advertising around than you think.

Fallout 3? One big soda ad.
 
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Mahnsikir

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jul 23, 2006
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Edinburgh - Scotland
To be honest I've hardly saw more than 5 seconds of the 'adverts' on an online game.

Another nice read from Alan on his gamasutra blog, if you make a cuddly toy fleshpound I will buy :D

One thing I was thinking was have you guys considered something like a 'supporters account' where you pay x amount for some nice things (like the DLC characters) and in return adverts are removed from the game.

It would be a nice way of people showing their support but I guess at the same time it opens a whole new can of worms, people saying 'they shove these adverts down your throat and then demand money to get rid of them' or even the cost effectiveness of such an idea overs the little ads and the contractual/legal implications that would effect the ads. (if you cant guarantee the player base seeing the ads the adverts wont be worth as much).
 

Nanostrike

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 19, 2009
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You should have Beretta put some gun ads in the lobby or something. Seriously, with how their pistol is represented in-game, they might be interested!
 

WarWithTostitos

FNG / Fresh Meat
Jul 23, 2009
34
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I'm going to say this as respectfully as possible:

1) The ads are very small, therefore rather unobtrusive. If that fraction of the gamescreen BELOW the area that actually matters is bothering you, then perhaps that is more of your problem than you're willing to accept.

2) People who are opposed to completely optional $3 DLC are I'm not very sorry to say, completely ****ing stupid. Especially for character skins.

Moral of the story, I'm actually am sorry to say: QQ more. Unobstructive advertising for other products that particular company provides is everyday life. I personally would be a little miffed if TWI decided to get sponsorship from somebody like, oh iono, EA... (please don't do that) and that's within gaming's own community. (Somebody else noted the coca cola thing and I agree with that as well.) I personally like the direction TWI took with the small ad, and I would love to see advertisements for things that TWI does or hell, even Valve stuff, since it runs through steam. The RO video was really cool and my only real concern is that video getting old, haha.
 

Nenjin

Grizzled Veteran
Apr 30, 2009
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If people can be bothered to read, read Yoshi's link to Gamasutra. If you still think advertising is evil and don't understand why TWI did it...well, best of luck to you in the 'real' world.