Admins get kicked by normal users!

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Ionik1974

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It happened the third time since yesterday that normal users kicked me or my friends which was logged in as admins. I searched the internet for hours to find the reason or the command which would make this possible, but it seems to be a hack or something.

Please help me protecting our clan servers!
 

lammah

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I think xadmin or serverext can help you, tho I never bothered to use em (too complicated and poorly documented for me to understand xD)

It happened to me once : I had just joined the game, two guys placed votekicks so I told em I was admin. But then the 3 others added their kickvotes. I then swiftly proceeded to thoroughly clean the server :)
 
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starxpilot

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I think xadmin or serverext can help you, tho I never bothered to use em (too complicated and poorly documented for me to understand xD)

It happened to me once : I had just joined the game, two guys placed votekicks so I told em I was admin. But then the 3 others added their kickvotes. I then swiftly proceeded to thoroughly clean the server :)
^This is your best bet, if you have access to the Web Admin, then leave/get kicked, go on there, grab the Steam IDs, and hit the ol Ban Hammer

People who think its funny to do that, ruin the game of others, regardless of status, admin or not, shouldn't be playing there in the first place.

Lol last time people did that, I don't wait for crowd majority, I just open up Admin and kick their asses outta there.
 

Ionik1974

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Sep 22, 2010
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but how can you set a kickvote against an admin? Hes not listed and the command dont work. I tried with my friends on our servers. One was admin the rest normal players. We could'nt kick him.:confused:

EDIT: Where ca i see the banlist? Our server restartet (GameCreate) and i cant see the bans under access policies in the webadmin panel?
 
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FluX

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but how can you set a kickvote against an admin? Hes not listed and the command dont work. I tried with my friends on our servers. One was admin the rest normal players. We could'nt kick him.:confused:

EDIT: Where ca i see the banlist? Our server restartet (GameCreate) and i cant see the bans under access policies in the webadmin panel?

There is a problem with this as I also have got this. The only way to get FULL bans (not just ban from a game - which is what the "admin kickban" command does, you have to installed the XBanMut_v02b mutator. This will make a ban fully banned and added to the WebAdmin policies section. The only problem is that it has new commands for the ban but that's because it logs the admin kick/ban command (from the mutator). This is very helpfuly especially to make sure your admins are doing their job and for the right reason.
 

poosh

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Do you want to know my opinion - F.U. gay admins!!! If you want to run private server, set it password protected. But if you're running public server, then you should respect other players who joined it too. Do you think this is normal, when 6 friends are playing the game, and in the middle of wave 9 some dumbass admin connects and kicks one of them without even saying a word. Just because he knows admin password and can't wait till game ends to introduce his lame playing.
 

poosh

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About the subject: it isn't possible to kick only the owner of server, if he's running a listen server. But any other players, admins or not, can be votekicked as well.
 

Ionik1974

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Sep 22, 2010
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About the subject: it isn't possible to kick only the owner of server, if he's running a listen server. But any other players, admins or not, can be votekicked as well.

How is the command for kicking admins? votekick doesn't work for me.

And no i don't do like you described one post before. I only kick persons connection with level 1 up to 3 perk trying to do the round as Firebug on Hell on Earth. We want to play with good players but beginner can't help us anyway and the highest difficult should be hard enough to understand for beginners, that this isn't their level of gaming. :mad:

We also have a private server and we often use it but its more fun to play with a bunch of new players.

Maybe there are many admins which are assholes but not in this case and neverteheless we as the clan are the owner of the servers and can do what we want because we paid the servers! Or would you allow a alien coming to your party kicking you out of it without a possibility to come back?
 

poosh

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Ionik, there's a difference between private and public party. I will not invite strangers to my party, for example, at home. But when you're organize public party, like open-air in some public place, you need to follow some etiquette rules. You can't be kicked from public server by a single player's wish. But you can be kicked if majority wants to, no matter you are admin or not.
You said you had payed for servers. But players had payed for the game, and that gives them right to play on public servers and get rid of annoying players by majority voting.

If you don't like it, you can do one of the following:
1. Make server private by setting a password for joining
2. Disable kick voting on the server, so only admin will be able to kick.
3. Increase KickPercent from default 51 to 70%, so all players must vote Yes to kick somebody. This will prevent situation, when 2 players privatizing server by kicking anybody else who joins.

I'm so pissed of because it is not so easy to collect good team with 6 friends. When it's done, we join an empty server to play some good game. And a couple of times or even more in the middle of the game joins server admin and silently kicks a player just to free a slot for himself, ruining an entire game.
I agree that server owners and admins have priority to play, but it would be nice if they wait until the current game ends or at least ask politely someone to leave.
 

Ionik1974

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Sep 22, 2010
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We ask if we can join the game and never kicked a group from our server. We always wait until the guests are ready with playing or we just go on our password protected server. There are many assholes like in every game who doing things not neccessary and only stupid. My intention was to get to know the tricks/commands this users take for kicking admins.

In the view of the server admin we only play till round 9 and then we get kicked although we had the most or nearly most kills and the will for teamplay. We ever kick and ban this players after we was kickbanned from our own server so they don't finish the game as well and don't tell this is wrong! Every normal person would act like this. Our situation is the opposite of your situation. We will turn up the vote percent and look whats coming in the future.

Before i forget: When i or other admins get kicked, there wasn't a kickvote started, it happens from one to the other second without any command logged by the console! Is this normal?
 

poosh

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You should check KickPercent value in your server config file. Maybe it is too low, so even 1 vote is enought to kick player
 

Undedd Jester

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and i asked the question three times: Which command let the guests kick the admin?

bKickVote=True

Allows players to vote to kick players in the server, admin or nay.


KickPercent=51

The percentage of players required to kick a player.


They are useful to help people kick griefers or level 0s. I myself have my server kick percent set to 67, this means that players can only kick a player if there is more than 3 people in the server, and its unanimous. This is because I've had reports of players highjacking my server.

It makes kicking griefers hard, but its the fairest system I can come up with, without getting some kind of complex mutator sorted for it.
 
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starxpilot

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Mine's set a little higher than that...but it works

Tbh, you should start taking Steam IDs and start adding them to the banlist, muppets like them should never EVER be allowed on your server

This business of admins kicking people to free slots for themselves lol...I think you need to set some things straight with them, or find that mutator/setting/whatever that has 'reserved slots'

If my server's ever full, I never kick anyone so I can play, I'm actually glad, it helps boost the server's rank, popularity and the chance you'll see more people come than it being empty 24/7
 

kablooie!

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Sep 21, 2010
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I used to have a guy in my clan who never understood why we had to wait for the map to finish before we politely asked some people to leave to make room for clan members. I even tried to put him in their shoes, imagine getting kicked on wave 9 on Mountain Pass after playing for almost an hour. He still didn't get it.... "Just kick them!" So we kicked him out of the clan instead.

Some people are just selfish and don't give a flying ___ about other people.
 

Ionik1974

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Sep 22, 2010
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I will set kickpercent to 67 %


and yeah, i know that kickvote=true enables kickvote^^

but with which command the guests can kick admins who are logged in?
The admins aren't listed in the kickvote list and kicking admins isn't possible for admins too, so how do the not admins kick admins?!?!?!:confused: