About Hacking In The Beta
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Speaking of proactive devs:
RO2 SpeedHack Fail - YouTube
This is a video of me testing out a speedhack against today's update. I uploaded it at 640 res, so I think it's still processing, but you get the idea. I speedhack, the server kick/bans me
RO2 SpeedHack Fail - YouTube
This is a video of me testing out a speedhack against today's update. I uploaded it at 640 res, so I think it's still processing, but you get the idea. I speedhack, the server kick/bans me
keep up the good work Ramm
lol dont get me started ..
back in cod2 just before cod4
i went nuts and posted a rant on punksbusted
its still there search for "hellbilly"
note that was my last post over there .. pb needs to step it up
http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37871&hl=
after that post i took about a 2 year break cause the cheaters and lazy server admin.s
i think they should all be hardware banned
ISP conntacted about manipulating copyright protected software ect.
skip the hammer .. drop the axe
lol dont get me started ..
back in cod2 just before cod4
i went nuts and posted a rant on punksbusted
its still there search for "hellbilly"
note that was my last post over there .. pb needs to step it up
http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37871&hl=
after that post i took about a 2 year break cause the cheaters and lazy server admin.s
i think they should all be hardware banned
ISP conntacted about manipulating copyright protected software ect.
skip the hammer .. drop the axe
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Do you mean in the comments on the YouTube page? One of those dbags was reading this thread and posted it in there (and named me in it, because I called him a hacker).
So the bad news is, he (and some of the others, I suppose) are apparently a part of this community... The good news is, it appears that action has already been taken.
I'm really happy to see the Dev's trying to do something against those lamers, nowadays there isn't many game companies who cares about this cheating plague sadly, hopefully you guys will find solutions to stop this and continue fight against this plague that is the cheating in online games.
Keep up the good work guys, catch and perma ban all those lamers ( i like Princeps's idea too ) .
Keep up the good work guys, catch and perma ban all those lamers ( i like Princeps's idea too
) .
Howdy RO2 fans!
We are excited to be working with Tripwire on cheat prevention in Red Orchestra 2.
You may help us improve VAC and keep cheaters at bay by using the report user feature in Steam Community. To report suspected cheaters to the VAC team, please follow the instructions provided HERE.
Thanks!
-Burton
We are excited to be working with Tripwire on cheat prevention in Red Orchestra 2.
You may help us improve VAC and keep cheaters at bay by using the report user feature in Steam Community. To report suspected cheaters to the VAC team, please follow the instructions provided HERE.
Thanks!
-Burton
Great to see you around here Burton. I look forward to working with you to keep the cheaters at bay as well!!!
You shouldn't have quit.
We made him run away, he couldn't stand us calmely making fun of him
.The poor guy clearly expected us to rage (which is the cheater's source of enjoyement), which we didn't.
We just took his cheat as a challenge, we killed him a few times and laughed at him.
Speaking of proactive devs:
RO2 SpeedHack Fail - YouTube
This is a video of me testing out a speedhack against today's update. I uploaded it at 640 res, so I think it's still processing, but you get the idea. I speedhack, the server kick/bans me
Yeah.
I'm gonna have to report you, sorry.
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To add a few facts re some partially incorrect or potentially misleading information:
1. PunkBuster does not support Betas whatsoever. It never did and never will. Thus:
2. No streaming support for Beta servers form our (PBBans.com) side.
We are running servers to actively test pb integration and are researching for TWi's to-do list.
Rest assured TWi devs will address all open issues with the appropriate priority.
For now we recommend to run Beta servers with PunkBuster disabled, although that is rather down to clients being unable to enable ... pb (beta) will nevertheless run seamlessly, if the client enables it; it is quite simple, use
Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ Binaries\Windows\pbsvc_hos.exe
once, create a file named pbclgame.cfg in
Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ Binaries\Win32\pb\pbclgame.cfg
and you are done once and forever. More info on PunkBuster Client *Logging: click my signature.
3. PBBans bans PunkBuster GUIDs (will, once the game is fully operational for streaming), effectively the steam ID for this game from all streaming servers; this based on streamed evidence solely, see: our ToS. I.e.: ingame demos recorded on streaming servers are banable evidence, videos whatsoever are no valid proof. Neither are PBSS or other proof taken on servers that are not actively streaming. Our (evidence-) submission system is accessible for admins streaming a server. A rough impression why we run high standards can be found here, for more information click my signature.
4. The cheat submission is in place for submitting cheats (hacks), no cheaters, cheaters won't fit into our mail slot (cheat accusations are ignored) So: mainly URL, so you will not have to post it.
Posting cheat sites, links, cheat names etc. in public forums is advertising cheats. This fact is taken from experience. Refrain from doing it, tomorrow nobody incl. Google will give a damn 'how you meant it'. Thus we will edit and lock every http://OMGhax.com/ post/topic on our forums, this is a recommended part of a zero-tolerance anti-cheat policy. We will not purchase cheats.
Cheat submissions to PunkBuster: research@evenbalance.com (PBBans is not PunkBuster.)
Flooding this MailBox with "reports" (i.e.: stories), cheat accusations, demos, pbss, whine!, gossip ... is counterproductive. PunkBuster is a reactive software. They have the hack (a file/binary) == it is detected. Go figure.
As a final remark: Nothing surprising really, it will be a popular game, won't it; afterall: all i hear yet is tilting at windmills. Wait for the release and we will see :>
1. PunkBuster does not support Betas whatsoever. It never did and never will. Thus:
2. No streaming support for Beta servers form our (PBBans.com) side.
We are running servers to actively test pb integration and are researching for TWi's to-do list.
Rest assured TWi devs will address all open issues with the appropriate priority.
For now we recommend to run Beta servers with PunkBuster disabled, although that is rather down to clients being unable to enable ... pb (beta) will nevertheless run seamlessly, if the client enables it; it is quite simple, use
Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ Binaries\Windows\pbsvc_hos.exe
once, create a file named pbclgame.cfg in
Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ Binaries\Win32\pb\pbclgame.cfg
Code:
// pbclgame.cfg
cl_punkbuster 1
pb_logtofile 1 // optional but recommended*3. PBBans bans PunkBuster GUIDs (will, once the game is fully operational for streaming), effectively the steam ID for this game from all streaming servers; this based on streamed evidence solely, see: our ToS. I.e.: ingame demos recorded on streaming servers are banable evidence, videos whatsoever are no valid proof. Neither are PBSS or other proof taken on servers that are not actively streaming. Our (evidence-) submission system is accessible for admins streaming a server. A rough impression why we run high standards can be found here, for more information click my signature.
4. The cheat submission is in place for submitting cheats (hacks), no cheaters, cheaters won't fit into our mail slot
(cheat accusations are ignored) So: mainly URL, so you will not have to post it. Posting cheat sites, links, cheat names etc. in public forums is advertising cheats. This fact is taken from experience. Refrain from doing it, tomorrow nobody incl. Google will give a damn 'how you meant it'. Thus we will edit and lock every http://OMGhax.com/ post/topic on our forums, this is a recommended part of a zero-tolerance anti-cheat policy. We will not purchase cheats.
Cheat submissions to PunkBuster: research@evenbalance.com (PBBans is not PunkBuster.)
Flooding this MailBox with "reports" (i.e.: stories), cheat accusations, demos, pbss, whine!, gossip ... is counterproductive. PunkBuster is a reactive software. They have the hack (a file/binary) == it is detected. Go figure.
As a final remark: Nothing surprising really, it will be a popular game, won't it; afterall: all i hear yet is tilting at windmills. Wait for the release and we will see :>
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Im so confused. In another thread youre throwing a huge hissy fit about not having enough FF maps aka CoD gameplay. Totally immature/drama queen, and now in this thread you represent PPBANS? I am so confused.
Sounds like Ramm.
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Another important "line of defense" or tool against cheating is fully functional demo recording.
Fully functional demo recording will allow players to record evidence when Admins are not on the server. It will be important for demos to accurately record everything, including weapon, first-person view etc. If possible a cross-hair in spectator and demo playback only, this will allow detection and review much easier. The ability for players, not just Admins, to lookup SteamIDs in console would be needed for demos to be useful, having SteamIDs included in the demo data and a command to retrieve them like Source engine demos would be very useful. That said, PB Streaming enabled servers will have PB GUIDs streamed. But it will still be important to have SteamID lookup in console built-in as there could be many servers not utilising either PB + Streaming or no PB at all, due to peoples frustration with PB and ignorance of Streaming.
Another thing you should consider is have VAC bans for cheating in RO1 carry over to RO2 (possibly even KF too) and visa versa on the Steam account that is used for cheating if that isn't how it works now, as an extra deterrent. As I'm sure you're aware Valve do this for CS:S, TF2, DoD:S, HL2M and other game combinations.
Fully functional demo recording will allow players to record evidence when Admins are not on the server. It will be important for demos to accurately record everything, including weapon, first-person view etc. If possible a cross-hair in spectator and demo playback only, this will allow detection and review much easier. The ability for players, not just Admins, to lookup SteamIDs in console would be needed for demos to be useful, having SteamIDs included in the demo data and a command to retrieve them like Source engine demos would be very useful. That said, PB Streaming enabled servers will have PB GUIDs streamed. But it will still be important to have SteamID lookup in console built-in as there could be many servers not utilising either PB + Streaming or no PB at all, due to peoples frustration with PB and ignorance of Streaming.
Another thing you should consider is have VAC bans for cheating in RO1 carry over to RO2 (possibly even KF too) and visa versa on the Steam account that is used for cheating if that isn't how it works now, as an extra deterrent. As I'm sure you're aware Valve do this for CS:S, TF2, DoD:S, HL2M and other game combinations.