About buying this game.

[R20+]

So I played this game at my friends house. It's really good. Quite faster as opposed to ARMA but not too fast as COD or BF.

The only thing I don't like, is that they censored the game. Instead of swastika they put crosses. Germans never mention words like F

 

[Josef Nader]

So I played this game at my friends house. It's really good. Quite faster as opposed to ARMA but not too fast as COD or BF.

The only thing I don't like, is that they censored the game. Instead of swastika they put crosses. Germans never mention words like F

 

[Grimreapo]

1) As much as I like Izzard I should point out that Stalin murdered his neighbours as he was a Georgian (in fact he drafted up early Soviet doctrines to deal with ethnics).
2) The Nazis are far more iconic than the Soviets, whilst most "roleplayers" are harmless you tend to see a lot of 88, SS etc etc. tags than Soviets by a million miles making it taboo to German censors.
3) The Nazis were the masters of murder, the USSR did kill a lot of people but it took decades and a lot of collateral damage to make it reach to millions whilst the Nazis got millions within just 4 years. Whilst the USSR did do terrible things to the Germans it was mostly vengeance to what the Germans did in the USSR, as some of the most horrifying accounts of what happen are from German survivors. For example Stalin may have staved the Ukraine but the Nazis turned it into the surface of the Moon...

I'm someone who dislikes censorship and I modded SH3 to have more accurate flags but unless the game directly faces the Nazi issue its just not worth a game company getting into trouble over...

 

[Nenjin]

I think it goes to the spirit of the game. These are soldiers of the German army. The Nazi party was a political party deeply entrenched in the military.

I like the separation between Nazism and the soldiers fighting on the ground. It feels honest, like they're being treated as people instead of mindless kill bots of the Nazi regime. And while it may feel dishonest to imply there were no Nazis in Stalingrad, I think the reverse is just as bad.

As one of the German officers put it in the movie Stalingrad "I'm no Nazi." Yet they were there fighting for the Wermacht. To me it's good that, for once, the censorship of WW2 games actually had a positive outcome, by making the game a conflict between soldiers, not really a conflict between good vs. evil. I can actually sympathize with the Germans in Stalingrad, something I didn't expect when I decided to buy the game.

 

[R20+]

You are right about Wermacht. They were forced to kill, like any soldier today. Some weren't nazi. But I still miss nazi symbols on their nice uniform . They should release patch where censorship outside germany would be optional.

 

[Grimreapo]

As one of the German officers put it in the movie Stalingrad "I'm no Nazi." Yet they were there fighting for the Wermacht. To me it's good that, for once, the censorship of WW2 games actually had a positive outcome, by making the game a conflict between soldiers, not really a conflict between good vs. evil. I can actually sympathize with the Germans in Stalingrad, something I didn't expect when I decided to buy the game

Oh yeah! That's a major problem I with that movie! The Officers are pretty much demonized the Officers and lionized the grunts. I think that's offensive to the mostly conservative Officer corp who I were not Nazis (at least until most of them died) and quite a few of them outright reject some of the Nazis more murderous plans...

 

[toidi]

Was enjoying the positive/negative vibe of the whole thread. The Monk-Colt discussion was pretty cool as well, giving distinct views on the current game and its predecessor.

Sadly Holy interjected with the ole 'social scientist' objectivity view
Guilty of arguing the point and not addressing the question (not to mention the buzz kill i felt).

O.P. game is pretty decent (bugs and broken bits exception). Seeing as you have bought it already then you won't need posts like this ^^^

 

[R20+]

Another question.
So if I get boxed game there will be no deluxe edition. Is it possible to install deluxe content in to retail?

 

[Ordinary soldier]

= LOL

= OMG LOL

= LOL in RO1 you ran out of breath in 2 seconds and could not control recoil

So are you sure about that? I have som kills on pavlovs house in ROOST from the windows around 100 meters range with PPSH 43.....
Some guys have trouble with bolt rifles at that range...
And yes I know how to control my recoil because I learned a lot and got some skills.
Hip fire with PPSH in ROOST I was getting kills up to 20-30 meters. NO matter short bursts or half to full mag just know how to control the recoil and the kick of the gun itself. Pulling the mouse , timing speed all makes the kills :IS2:
IN RO 2 recoil is AUTOMATIC? I get auto kills when hipfiring in short range-the gun seems to be auto aiming and auto moving left or right while firing so that it will eventualy hit the enemy....just not realistic at all.

 

[luciferintears]

My recommendation:

-wait 6+ months
-by then the patches have come out as well as the mods
-Also it will likely be around summer, so this will be on the inevitable steam summer sale
-purchase for $10 on sale.
-save $30 and experience none of the headache
-???
-Profit!

 

[ultraZ]

My recommendation:

-wait 6+ months
-by then the patches have come out as well as the mods
-Also it will likely be around summer, so this will be on the inevitable steam summer sale
-purchase for $10 on sale.
-save $30 and experience none of the headache
-???
-Profit!

And be six months behind everyone else, Oh boy level one ppsh was crap, level 25+ and it works great, 6 months behind will leave a sour taste for all but the most dedicated. (my opinion)