10 major sins of FPS productions in last 4 years

[Nenjin]

I'm not a marksmen or anything, nor have I shot assault rifles...but newer games seem like they just eschew most ballistics in favor of what's most fun. Bullet drop physics, and a shooting from the hip that is representative of not aiming down the sights with recoil, ect...

So, games where shooting from the hip can be done at a couple hundred yards isn't real enough...and games where scoped at a couple hundred yards, snazzy assault rifles with almost no recoil still have shots coming out of the barrel screwy...that's trying too hard.

 

[Linoleum]

BC2 is good fun if you dont look into, it'l keep me occupied until HoS is out.

pisses me off how i can (as the medic class) fire 200 bullets into an enemy and hit with 90% of them, then i get killed in a quick burst all because they're the 'assualt' class...

anyways, no prone in some games is baddd!

 

[Rak]

the only reason i'm not getting BC2 is because they didn't include prone.

they made the game for people who obviously are not going to use any tactic so i dont want to play it.

So lying around in a corner is a tactic? There are countless tactics you can apply in BC2.

 

[omarfw]

So lying around in a corner is a tactic? There are countless tactics you can apply in BC2.

im sure there are, but only of the run & gun flavor. where are the stealth elements if you can't even prone.

they might as well remove crouching while they're at it also

 

[Uurastaja]

If prone was included majority would be playing as a sniper and just lay down behind a rock.

Look at KF, fast and fun gameplay -> no need for prone.

 

[Nenjin]

You can't compare KF to general FPS games where everyone has guns. They're not even in the same ball park.

The 'skillset' you need for KF is different than a competitive FPS. I have to scream at one SS a week at least to quit strafing like a nitwit in front of everyone.

And why exactly are games so different now that prone wouldn't be a good idea? It's worked pretty well for the last, oh 15 years.

 

[omarfw]

If prone was included majority would be playing as a sniper and just lay down behind a rock.

Look at KF, fast and fun gameplay -> no need for prone.

KF is a zombie shooter fps. Battlefield is built to be heavily tactical. You can't make "tactical" game that doesn't include essential tactical maneuvers like prone.
Battlefield has never been a run & gun game at it's core. It's a tactical fps with run & gun moments. EA is just trying to copy the success of MW2

 

[Maschine Pistole-38]

im sure there are, but only of the run & gun flavor. where are the stealth elements if you can't even prone.

they might as well remove crouching while they're at it also

"Stealth elements" are you kidding me? When has the Battlefield franchise been about stealth? Yeah going prone in order to hide from a tank or a sniper going prone in order to be less of a target but thats about it. Bad Company 2 is one of the few FPS now that REQUIRE team work and tactics in order to win. I think DICE has taken a step forward while IW and others of the multiplayer powerhouses have taken a step back.

 

[omarfw]

"Stealth elements" are you kidding me? When has the Battlefield franchise been about stealth? Yeah going prone in order to hide from a tank or a sniper going prone in order to be less of a target but thats about it. Bad Company 2 is one of the few FPS now that REQUIRE team work and tactics in order to win. I think DICE has taken a step forward while IW and others of the multiplayer powerhouses have taken a step back.

in 2142 there was a whole class dedicated to stealth. they even had a cloaking device. and the maps had plenty of hiding places. it wasn't totally dedicated towards run & gun gameplay. but it was still a battlefield game and it still encouraged massive amount of teamwork. that game would have sucked without prone.

 

[Maschine Pistole-38]

What could prone have added into Bad Company 2 that would make it better or worse? The gameplay has no need for it, the whole idea behind not having prone is discourge the campers and lone wolfs that would sit prone with a rifle the entire match. Granted there already are a lot of snipers currently in BC2 but thats just the nature of the beast that is ardtards that inhabit FPS games.

 

[Reddog]

Dolphin diving...

 

[Grobut]

Dolphin diving...

...sucks, but that's no reason to take prone out of games, the issue can be solved quite simply by having appropriate animations and code for going to and from the prone position, Dolphin diving is not an issue with prone, but with lazy Dev's not taking the time to impliment it propperly

 

[BlackLabel]

they took it out because console dident had one... oh thats actualy "wrong" ....imo in some interview they stated something along the
lines of "making the general gameplay slower".

 

[Nenjin]

I don't actually have a problem with dolphin diving. It's annoying sure...but I've always wanted a combat roll or dive in FPS...and dolphin diving around corners is pretty close to that.

 

[omarfw]

What could prone have added into Bad Company 2 that would make it better or worse? The gameplay has no need for it, the whole idea behind not having prone is discourge the campers and lone wolfs that would sit prone with a rifle the entire match. Granted there already are a lot of snipers currently in BC2 but thats just the nature of the beast that is ardtards that inhabit FPS games.

i dont consider BC2 a true battlefield game anyway. it's too call of duty'ish

 

[fiftyone]

Dolphin diving...

Is an Art...

 

[Pvt_Jack_Ryan]

the only reason i'm not getting BC2 is because they didn't include prone.

they made the game for people who obviously are not going to use any tactic so i dont want to play it.

You think that it would be lame to not have prone and not tactical, but when you play the game you realize you dont really need it.

 

[Nenjin]

Because it's a frag fest, and people don't need to stay alive in frag fests. Which is why I'm not buying it.

 

[omarfw]

Because it's a frag fest, and people don't need to stay alive in frag fests. Which is why I'm not buying it.

this.

i'm not entertained by merely running around and shooting until i die

 

[Reddog]

Honestly can you people who have it imagine what HC would be like with prone? It's already bad enough with people Recon camping on HC imagine it with them having the ability to prone themselves amongst the bushes/rocks etc, it would suck majorly.

I seem to remember reading that DICE tested the game with prone in and felt that it prompted people to camp and try to pick people off rather than win the map. I read this as, "We found a lot of people Recon whored with the 1 shot kills even to the little toe in HC".