Is there a server option that prevents low level players from joining? I can't stand it when everything's going well in suicidal and 2 lvl 0-2 players join and get us killed.
Slappy Cromwell said:Players should never be segregated based on their perk level. In fact, the game should never require perk leveling at any point in order to play. This is a first person shooter, not an MMO.
I want a server option, not a requirement, that automatically filters out low level players. There are some servers that clearly say "perk lvl4+ only" yet low level players keep joining because the admin is absent and unable to kick them out.If you own the server and wish to run it like a tyrant, then you're free to do so, manually. However, there should never be an officially implemented system that inhibits the player's choice simply because of their perk level.
[UIT said:Akame]I understand that low level players have lower DPS abilities which are important in suicidal but people playing poorly can be just as much a hindrance and perk level isn't necessarily any measure of usefulness.
In that case, instead of kicking out, the low level perks should be disabled.Besides how would the filter handle someone who has level 1 commando but level 4 support? Would they get kicked if they switched to a low level?
Players should never be segregated based on their perk level. In fact, the game should never require perk leveling at any point in order to play. This is a first person shooter, not an MMO.
If you own the server and wish to run it like a tyrant, then you're free to do so, manually. However, there should never be an officially implemented system that inhibits the player's choice simply because of their perk level.
Completely agree. The LAST thing a game with perk levels needs is the developers to encourage elitism by adding such options as "Kick players under X level". That's something for the admins and the players of the server to deal with. I'm sure you could write a script or something for it.
Besides, how do you know that the player joining as a Level 1 Demoman (What he was in his last game) isn't planning to switch to a Level 5 Sharpshooter at the end of the wave?
Everyone knows that having a higher level means you're a better player.
[UIT said:Akame]I understand that low level players have lower DPS abilities which are important in suicidal but people playing poorly can be just as much a hindrance and perk level isn't necessarily any measure of usefulness.
me said:You're right about lvl 5 players with lousy skills. Still, they usually know what they're supposed to do better than low level players due to more experience. And the high level perk bonuses aren't just important in suicidal. They are essential.
Anyone who is a level 0 and trying to play suicidal is going to get raped but even a level 2 SS could be effective if played well. Just police your own server.
Players should never be segregated based on their perk level. In fact, the game should never require perk leveling at any point in order to play. This is a first person shooter, not an MMO.
If you own the server and wish to run it like a tyrant, then you're free to do so, manually. However, there should never be an officially implemented system that inhibits the player's choice simply because of their perk level.
Anyone who is a level 0 and trying to play suicidal is going to get raped but even a level 2 SS could be effective if played well. Just police your own server.
macom_birdman said:LOL, ive played with lvl 5 guys that are effin clueless sometimes.
me said:You're right about lvl 5 players with lousy skills. Still, they usually know what they're supposed to do better than low level players due to more experience.
If you know the drill, sure. The problem is I can't tell if you do.(unless you let the team know beforehand) Again, assuming a player's skills from their perk level is not the best idea. But I don't want to risk watching how well a low level player does in near end waves when one mistake can wipe out the team in no time. What's more,kicking someone just because they dont play as much as you is kinda stupid IMO. Yes i might not be able to do as much damage, but really, can u decap a FP with a 9mm pistol in hard without taking damage? I can, so does that qualify me to play in your server if im only lvl 3?
me said:the high level perk bonuses aren't just important in suicidal. They are essential.
me said:There are some servers that clearly say "perk lvl4+ only" yet low level players keep joining because the admin is absent and unable to kick them out.
mamoo said:You people are what bring the KF community down, we should embrace and instruct new players, not shun them.
You people are what bring the KF community down, we should embrace and instruct new players, not shun them. How will TWI look if the review for the game are:
"Good game but you have to spend months on yourown before yu can join a server."
Not to mention the sales impact.