Increased realism
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This may just be the worst suggestion I've EVER seen... and in the REALISM thread!!!
One shot or hit with heavy weapons = dead. This is rule for all. If your arm or leg is cutted or blasted out you die immediately insntantly from blood loose, pain and shock and cannot move even a 1 mm. This is realism. The bullet doesnt make any difference between the "good" and the "bad" guy or monster. No difference between poor man and king.
Also when i shot my 350 kg donkey with 12 gauge subcaliber bullet (slug as you called it) in area of stomach it die at moment of hitting without be able to move even a 1 mm. Just fall down. And the exit wound was at size of bowling ball. Thats because the bullet opens like umbrella inside the target while rotating and pushing forward at unbeliavable stopping power.
Regular subcalliber has 3000-5000 joules energy
Magnum has 5000-7500
Supermag has 7500-10000
Barrett 50 cal BMG riflle has over 50 000 joules which is enough to kill elephant of 5 tons at first shot even in the ***. Hit the *** bullet goes throgh whole body and exits at head. 10 joules energy per kg is needed to die instantly from the shock of the impact. Thats physics law. so if the flesh pond weight is 350 kg then it will die immediately from almost any heavy weapon of the game. Napalm burns steal in seconds whats left to flesh and bones.
Pellets of the shotguns not have much stopping power but subcaliber bullets(slugs) have unbeliavable stopping power. With 12 gauge supermag subcalliber bullet i blast out a 550 kg bear at 85 meters. half of the bear is turned to little pieces.
With AK 47 i pierce railroad track at 10 meters.
There are sever types army bullets
- regular type
- heavy type
- burn type
- armor pierce type
- armor pierce burn type
- tracing type (leaves a trail looks like lasershot usually green trace light)
Judging by the size and volume of the patriarh it cannot be heavier than 500 kg. Which means that the supermag slug guarantied kill 6 patriarchs pierce five patriarchs and eventualy stop in the sixth (if they are one behind another) at 70 meter distance.
50 cal BMG blast out 8 patriarchs at 100 meter distance and kill 1 patriarch at kilometer distance.
Rocket blast EVERYTHING at 10 meter radius of hitting point.
Most of you if not the all never have oppurtunity to fire with real heavy weapons in their life. So dont tell me please what means realism.
Not to mention what will be if the bullets are made of titanium with platinum core.
This is supposed to be special squad not street gang right? Then where are the special weapons?
What about gas weapons, sonic, lasers.
Heavy tanks, artillery, minethrowers, bomber stealth planes, submarines, ships, weapons for mass distraction. One SS23 with nuclear plutonium head rocket and westlondon is wiped out of the world map for at least 100 years. Don be foolish of the games heavy radiation doesnt mutate living organism it annihilate living organisms. But before radiation there is shock blast wave, after this heat wave dont worry just several millions celsuim degrees. And not just radiation also air and water will be poisoned and cannot be consumated by any creature.
And where is the local population in the maps? Simply everything is eaten and only some stupid squad and a trader is living?
There are nothing more scared than the real realism.
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It has very little to do with what happens when you get hit. It has very much to do with the fact you want a VULCAN F***ING MINIGUNS, GODDAMN TANKS, and AIRCRAFT in the game!!! This isn't ArmA II with zombies...
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Oh and you want weapons that can one shot the patriarch??? Does game balance mean ANYTHING to you at all??? And while we're on the topic of realism, if a zombie outbreak really did happen in a major city and it went out of control, you would ****ing nuke the city.
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I think the main idea of this thread is to increase realism with as little modifications and addons as possible.
Creating lots of new models and animations is too much to ask. Instead, small changes like Stamina Bar or Breathing Effect are much simpler tasks and they increase the feeling of realism much more considering the workload.
Creating lots of new models and animations is too much to ask. Instead, small changes like Stamina Bar or Breathing Effect are much simpler tasks and they increase the feeling of realism much more considering the workload.
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Exactly. It's stuff that's actually FEASABLE to do. Yes, in a situation like this they might realistically call in Air Support. But no, it's simply not practical to expect the dev team to realistically model in attack helicopters AND balance levels around them...
And for the love of god, Ragging Demon, stop tying in huge, bolded font. It just makes me skip your posts because they hurt my eyes. And this:
"- also you can add sexy naked or half naked womans to be rescued from squad. And if the "hero" rescued a woman without she to get damage from the monsters the "hero" will have kiss from the rescued woman. And why not they to fall in love to become a family and fight together agaisnt the monsters. But if wife or housband get killed the game over. Their fate will be bonded. In other words they become responsability for each other. Help each other heal each other, have sex, embrace, love etc of course in reduced form to fit to under 18 years auditory"
Is about the worst suggestion I've ever heard. Period. Seriously. My brain hurts after reading that.
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Nanostrike who are you to tell me and command me what to type how to type it and with what font size.
As i said i want powerful weapons or one shot = dead. You forget that the patriarch also fire at me right? And the rule is for all. If hit me i will be dead at first hit. The faster shooter win. So that is fair and there not unbalanced anything. This is called instagib mode in half-life.
Anyway i found a mutator to fix the rocket damage so anything in 10 meter radius of hit really is blasted to pieces.
So why not add some tough weapons and machineguns to the special squad? Prove that this is a special squad and not street gang.
Maybe i will find and instagib mode mutator somewhere i hope.
Special squad whitout laser pointers, snipers, reflex sights, nighvision googles, scopes, weapon grenade lauchers, C4 explosives what sqad is then?
But most of all i need a mutator which blocks the mutator blocking.
As i said i want powerful weapons or one shot = dead. You forget that the patriarch also fire at me right? And the rule is for all. If hit me i will be dead at first hit. The faster shooter win. So that is fair and there not unbalanced anything. This is called instagib mode in half-life.
Anyway i found a mutator to fix the rocket damage so anything in 10 meter radius of hit really is blasted to pieces.
So why not add some tough weapons and machineguns to the special squad? Prove that this is a special squad and not street gang.
Maybe i will find and instagib mode mutator somewhere i hope.
Special squad whitout laser pointers, snipers, reflex sights, nighvision googles, scopes, weapon grenade lauchers, C4 explosives what sqad is then?
But most of all i need a mutator which blocks the mutator blocking.
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Stop letting RAGGING DEMON troll you. I think a quick educational interlude is in order.
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Stop letting RAGGING DEMON troll you. I think a quick educational interlude is in order.
Finally someone noticed.
Just ignore the troll and move along.
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God this thread is totally wasted now. The last 10 post are off topic and the thread is now full of awful pictures and enormous quotes.
Could some moderator, please, clean this thread? (And remove this post after it.)
Could some moderator, please, clean this thread? (And remove this post after it.)
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God this thread is totally wasted now. The last 10 post are off topic and the thread is now full of awful pictures and enormous quotes.
Could some moderator, please, clean this thread? (And remove this post after it.)
Let's just get back on topic then, shall we?
Too much realism = bad.
Weapon reloading realism = sounds fun, and will not change the gameplay much.
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id love to see those weapon mechanics, i actually never really realised that KF was a bag of bullets style game, i always kept my mags and occasionaly burned ones that were close to empty. IMO to keep both sides happy, if possible add all these extra realism tidbits for those who want them such as myself, and make a server side option to turn them on or off, also making this setting mandatory for suicidal mode.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, I definitely like the idea of harder difficulties making the game more realistic rather than just more monsters with more HP doing more damage.
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I am all for this too, as long as it won't go down to too much detail. I am sure not all maps have toilets or cooking facilities...
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powerful weapons
powerful weapons
and why not monsters to be smart enemies instead just to try to eat armed to the teeth squad - very stupid. Why not monsters pick up weapons from the corpses and fire with them to the squad.
Or
Tanks to the squad
anti tank Mines,bombs, rockets, minethrowers to the monsters
Spaceship fights, other planets.
Maybe even to have option player to select what to be a human or monster. Human squad vs monster squad. Only patrarch has weapon - thats not fair to the monsters. And all to die at first hit with any heavy weapon no matter area of hit this is called Instagib mode faster shooter win
(Quake, Half-life have that mod)
Add vulcan 10000 RPM 8 barrel machine gun. Why not to be fair? If you have for example 500 bullets they will be fired of the machinegun for 3 seconds. 10000 rounds per minute/60 seconds= 166 shots per second. This will be good if you are left alone all squad is eaten and have to stop big army of monsters. But still you cannot hit everything after all you have 3 seconds. It will be very useful in open maps like kf-defense.
powerful weapons
and why not monsters to be smart enemies instead just to try to eat armed to the teeth squad - very stupid. Why not monsters pick up weapons from the corpses and fire with them to the squad.
Or
Tanks to the squad
anti tank Mines,bombs, rockets, minethrowers to the monsters
Spaceship fights, other planets.
Maybe even to have option player to select what to be a human or monster. Human squad vs monster squad. Only patrarch has weapon - thats not fair to the monsters. And all to die at first hit with any heavy weapon no matter area of hit this is called Instagib mode faster shooter win
(Quake, Half-life have that mod)
Add vulcan 10000 RPM 8 barrel machine gun. Why not to be fair? If you have for example 500 bullets they will be fired of the machinegun for 3 seconds. 10000 rounds per minute/60 seconds= 166 shots per second. This will be good if you are left alone all squad is eaten and have to stop big army of monsters. But still you cannot hit everything after all you have 3 seconds. It will be very useful in open maps like kf-defense.
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A few reloading changes would be nice in the game itself, not just in 'realism'. For one, no auto-reload. When your weapon is dry, it should click when you try to fire and not reload until you actually PUSH the reload button! Auto-reloading, specifically with dual handguns, gets you killed...
As for 'weapon switch during reload', I see two real options to make this realistic and not completely, lame-style exploitable:
-Have the reload simply not count if switched in mid-reload. You can switch from your dual-handcannons when you're reloading them, but when you switch back, they WON'T be reloaded.
-Once a reload starts, the only way to cancel is to drop the gun in question. More realistic solution, really, but I'm positive that most newbies would be dumbfounded by this and not know how to do so...
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I really don't see this whole reloading matter very important. Here, in KF, people talk so much about auto-reload and in L4D everybody talks about flashlight.
It's weird - but hey - everyone has their own interests.
It's weird - but hey - everyone has their own interests.
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