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Squad Allied Realism units?

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[181] Sergei

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Do they still exist?

It has been a long long time comrades, and I wanted to get back into the realism gaming now that I have time again. With the 181st having cased the colors awhile ago and having seen a few threads about allied realism units being inactive I was wondering if there were any that were actually still around that were not axis.
 
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Well, i've been trying hard to get all the allied units back together or new ones formed. Here is a list of some of the active Allied units in the TOC,

3rdAD/{SHD}
2ndAD
4thAD/{BTK}
1st Airborne
101st Airborne
29thID

The 3rdAD/{SHD}, which i'm the leader of, and the 29thID are the strongest (meaning the most members) out all of the units listed above. Our weakness is we are almost purely a Tank unit with a few infantry. We play in both Realism and in the RO League and have been in over 30 matches in the past 4 months.
We are still in the transition of becoming a "True" realism unit, but getting near finish and fight in every realism battle around.

The 29thID has tons of members but never skrims or does any campaigns. These guys just train a lot, lol.

The 2ndAD is very small and their leader is MIA, but they are good guys and are a true realims unit, but not very active.

The 4thAD/{BTK} is a new unit and are also very good guys and trying to build up their numbers

The 101st Airborne are great guys, but only have 3 guys that play in RO and I think that's only happened in 1 realism game.

The 1st Airborne is a new unit (just started this month) with about 7 members and I'm hoping to team up with them to form our infantry unit to become 1 complete unit (tankers and Infantry). They seem to be good guys and just need time to get established.

I've been looking for a infantry leader/clan to join up with us since about 30 of us are tankers in our unit and only have a few infantry specialists. I wanted to form a Armored Infantry Regiment (36thAIR) to play all the infantry maps for us and we rotate in for the tanker maps (and those that want to play both can). So if you want to join any of these units just let me know what ones interest you and I will give you their web address. If you go to my sites main page I have some of them listed that are active.

www.spearheaddivision.com

Also, we don't only play as Americans, we will also play in the RO/MN/CC as allies, to not limit us. I think just us and the 1st Airborne want to play all 4 mods.
 
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Hmm, I still have to download the mods, still only have RO on my new comp. I used to be a TC for the 181st so playing something other than the Russians would be refreshing, when do you guys normally play?

EDIT: Also, if you guys are in need of Infantry I could fill in there, did a few rounds as a groundpounder in the day, ;)
 
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I think it would help the Allied side of realism units if they stressed more of the historical aspect of the unit rather than just a bunch of ex-clanners and pubbers deciding that they want to form together to be a part of the realism community because we have/had cool campaigns with flashy pictures, nice photoshop work, and interesting rules.

It seems like most of the Allied units in RO's history have really just been clans in the guise of a realism unit attracting non-realistically minded players typically led by teenagers who have no comprehension/experience on how to run a realism unit, which as RO's history has shown to be the formula for a short lived unit. Of course this also applies for the Axis, just look through all of the short-lived, pointless units that form every week or so.
 
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"I think it would help the Allied side of realism units if they stressed more of the historical aspect of the unit rather than just a bunch of ex-clanners and pubbers deciding that they want to form together to be a part of the realism community because we have/had cool campaigns with flashy pictures, nice photoshop work, and interesting rules.

It seems like most of the Allied units in RO's history have really just been clans in the guise of a realism unit attracting non-realistically minded players typically led by teenagers who have no comprehension/experience on how to run a realism unit, which as RO's history has shown to be the formula for a short lived unit. Of course this also applies for the Axis, just look through all of the short-lived, pointless units that form every week or so."
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Hey just because we dont shout SIEG HEIL after every game doesnt mean we are not realistic.

Hey sergei, me and a couple of mates as well as maybe some old 181 guys might try and raise the red banner once again. If your interested add my
xfire: Siberiansniper
or my steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SIBERIANvodka
 
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Roman Elite said:
I think it would help the Allied side of realism units if they stressed more of the historical aspect of the unit rather than just a bunch of ex-clanners and pubbers deciding that they want to form together to be a part of the realism community because we have/had cool campaigns with flashy pictures, nice photoshop work, and interesting rules.

It seems like most of the Allied units in RO's history have really just been clans in the guise of a realism unit attracting non-realistically minded players typically led by teenagers who have no comprehension/experience on how to run a realism unit, which as RO's history has shown to be the formula for a short lived unit. Of course this also applies for the Axis, just look through all of the short-lived, pointless units that form every week or so.
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I understand what you are saying, and I agree and disagree. Sure we were a clan first, but that doesn't mean we can't make the move to a realism unit and to what degree we wish to be "Realism". Not to toot our own horn, but realism within DH was all but dead until I decided to change {SHD} into the 3rd Armored "Spearhead" Division. We play in realism matches and give the German units something to shoot at, otherwise they wouldn't be shooting at anyone. We do both, part of the RO League and Realism Campaigns and Skrims. Some have accepted us, some haven't. That's fine, but overall, what we are trying to do is good and keep the realism community together. I know a lot about the 3rdAD in WW2 and in Desert Storm and only want to learn more. Pubbers become recruits, so i'm not sure how your unit does recruiting, but we depend on them to fill our ranks. Also, isn't that the idea of having a clan/unit, is a bunch of guys getting together to fight for the same side?

Lets face it, the community as a whole is shrinking and we all need to stick together and help each other, Axis and Allied units. These small units that are made, need to be helped to flourish, not beat down and ridiculed. I created the "Theatre of Conflict" to hold realism campaigns, so my intentions of being invloved with realism is the best I can do. We are willing to play the Allies for any mod, RO/DH/MN. That may not be "Real" as the 3rdAD was only a U.S. division, but without us doing all 3, a bunch of German units would'nt be doing anything. All we want to do is play as a unit...:)
 
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you are doing a great job Metalbourne. it isn't your fault that people go over and above logic and rational thought.

it seems like the problem with the realism community is that people can't get along because of their own individual preferences of what exactly "realism" is. that is why i myself, and my clan do not even bother with it. you simply can't deal with extremists.

metalbourne you are the man and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. ;)
 
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Thanks bswearer. I've been trying my best, but the realism community is a mixed bag that in MHO will not flurish with some of the units attitudes. I've met and made some new friends in the realism community, esp. the 17th SS. These guys have been great to us and I respect them as a unit and try to work with us, because were only here to help and have fun. Then there are other units, that despite our best intentions, still have something to complain to us about.

The issue always comes back to what is real and what is fair. It seems like some of the units want it to be so real when it benefits them, but not so real to where you would have 6 or 7 allied tanks per German tank or make it fair to where the allies need Jumbo Shermans or M36's or even the M26. This would make each match more even, but not always historicly correct.

My biggest complaint about the realism community is the lack of comprimising. This is a game and could never reflect real life, even if yo udo play one life and make up rules. Also the other issue is DH itself. They are doing a great job, but isn't quite ready yet to make things even. I know they are working hard on getting new Allied tanks enetered, but most people want the King Tiger. That is the last tank needed at this moment. Why not give them a Leo2A6 and we may get a M18, or a M24 lol. They just need to focus on Allied tanks right now and maps and I think they will be good to go.
 
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Sava said:
Be sweet if you guys could coax vikitor and vlad out of retirement.
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SAVA IS STILL HERE! :D That made my day.
Does anyone know what they are up to nowadays?

EDIT: Brigadista I added your STEAM, I'm Crazyeyes24

Major von Mauser said:
I vaguely remember a Sergei. But I almost remember a couple of them....:eek:

Best realism unit out there at the moment is the 3rd Armoured Division.
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I was the one that kicked *** with an SU-76 if that rings any bells lol
 
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Metal Bourne is doing a very good job indeed of trying to resurrect something that resembles an allied community and for that he deserves some credit. However the allied side even though that list he provided looks impressive is still very weak and (like most units including axis ones) are in need of good reliable and competent manpower. So that being said I encourage the allies to try and band together and try to strengthen themselves by whatever means necessary.

Sadly however there are always those looking to spoil things with there childish games and stupid and irrelevant comments, thank you Brigadista valuable contributions as always maybe you could do us all a favor and crawl back to whatever pit you came from.

Regards
Ernst Hoffmann
 
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Aye i miss the 181 (even though i was never in it)
Viktor did say he was coming back for DH or something like that.
Ah well
Always nice talking with you hoffmann. Especially as it comes from someone in the same unit that harbours known nazi fanboy ralf brandt. Of which his actions actually mean that according to the RO rules about realism units you are not classed as one as you have not taken appropiate precautions to remove him.
 
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Brigadista said:
Aye i miss the 181 (even though i was never in it)
Viktor did say he was coming back for DH or something like that.
Ah well
Always nice talking with you hoffmann. Especially as it comes from someone in the same unit that harbours known nazi fanboy ralf brandt. Of which his actions actually mean that according to the RO rules about realism units you are not classed as one as you have not taken appropiate precautions to remove him.
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Brandt’s political views and opinions have absolutely nothing to do with you my unit or tripwire. He has been in the unit even longer than myself and is veteran within the realism community and should be given more respect than that. This is all quite funny coming from you who is clearly very politically motivated. I would appreciate it if you would stop rail roading topics with your stupid Nazi witch hunts and took your attention seeking to another forum.

Ernst Hoffmann

P.S. could you please give me a link to your units forum Brigadista
 
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Ah, the old "tactical realism" versus "historical realism" argument.

I suppose, when it came down to it, the 193rd was a mix of both. Although we preferred to historically represent a Soviet Rifle Division in names, conduct and in overall strategies, when it came to the gameplay, we wanted the game to be balanced so both sides had fun, while still being realistic.

Whenever historically accurate gameplay came in, it never worked (such as Armored Beasts, limiting certain weapons, etc) because the game just wasn't made for it. Although it was interesting, it was never any fun.

Although we never did it, I secretly wanted to have in-game award ceremonies. ;)
 
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